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In response to "even at worst in 2005, before earmark reform, they only cost $47 billion total -- (link)" by charlie

I would like it to be zero. If it has to be sneaked into a bill then that means they know it wouldn't pass.

Posted by Bacon (aka redmond) Jul 2 '13, 17:47

47 billion here, 47 billion there. Uh, we are running deficits. It ALL matters.

I know it's the principle of the thing. Not doing the math but how much money would that be for each tax payer if they just split it up and cut us a check.

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the spending goes back into the economy. it's not like that money evaporates into thin air -- nm - charlie Jul 2, 17:48 15
- The governement is the biggest source of income for the county. - the liioulu with Jul 2, 17:51
- I concede this point, but I would rather have the earmarks stand on their own merits and not be slipped in secretly -- nm - Bacon Jul 2, 17:50 13
  - Hating earmarks generally is fine, but they are a symptom of how our government works -- nm - con_carne Jul 2, 18:00 12
    - removing them has actually contributed to gridlock b/c the party leaders don't have any grease to turn the wheels anymore -- nm - charlie Jul 2, 18:05 7
      - Only in Congress could bribes be considered merely "greasing the wheels." - Stephen Jul 2, 18:14 5
        
        Clearly earmarks can be taken too far, but they aren't evil by their sheer nature in a system that depends on negotiation -- nm - ty97 Jul 2, 18:18
        
        not sure how a government project = "bribe" but okay -- nm - charlie Jul 2, 18:17 2
        
        "greasing the wheels" is another way to say bribe. -- nm - the liioulu with Jul 2, 18:20 1
        
        More accurately, I think, a bribe is one type of greasing the wheels. -- nm - mara Jul 2, 18:34
        
        They aren't bribes if they're written in to a law. - the liioulu with Jul 2, 18:17
      - Damn this is the second thing you have posted that really makes sense. - Bacon Jul 2, 18:08
    - We will be Greece someday if something doesn't change -- nm - Bacon Jul 2, 18:05 3
      - no we won't. ever. -- nm - charlie Jul 2, 18:05 2
        
        OPA! :) -- nm - Bacon Jul 2, 18:06 1
        
        no really, we won't -- (link) - charlie Jul 2, 18:14

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I would like it to be zero. If it has to be sneaked into a bill then that means they know it wouldn't pass.

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