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Tahir Sq. right now looks like Times Sq. on New Year's Eve. - Krusty Jul 3, 11:30 2
- It's a people's coup. I hope they make it work and get a responsive, representative government in the next few years. - TWuG Jul 3, 11:37
- *Tahrir* -- nm - Krusty Jul 3, 11:33
A fool and his money..... Here is your $78 Tug of War rope from Pottery Barn! (it is a rope, with a knot in the middle.) -- (link) - Andie Jul 3, 11:28
"...which is quite odorous and expensive." "I assume you mean onerous." "Yeah." -- nm - radio transcripts Jul 3, 11:27
My Game of Thrones book rankings: 3, 1, 2.....4 -- nm - Beaker Jul 3, 11:27 5
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  - major book spoils for end of 3 and book 4 - Beaker Jul 3, 11:34
- spoils - Roger More Jul 3, 11:28 2
  - spoils? - Beaker Jul 3, 11:29 1
    - spoils - Roger More Jul 3, 11:32
Fenway and Wrigley are obviously the two oldest baseball stadiums in use. What's 3rd? -- nm - spamlet Jul 3, 11:15 13
- They covered this during our Fenway tour! -- nm - ty97 Jul 3, 11:17 2
  - Yup. :-) -- nm - Krusty Jul 3, 11:23
  - you were paying attention? - tRuMaN Jul 3, 11:18
- dodgers, then angels i think, then maybe kc -- nm - tRuMaN Jul 3, 11:17 1
  - i think the oakland stadium opened before kc as well. -- nm - tRuMaN Jul 3, 11:18
- Kansas City? -- nm - Will Hunting Jul 3, 11:16 3
  - Love Kaufman Field. It's on the "Visit in the Next 15years" list. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Jul 3, 11:17 2
    - the rehab work they did a few years ago really improved it in a lot of ways. -- nm - tRuMaN Jul 3, 11:18 1
      - I enjoyed it when I saw it the 80's -- nm - amoxy Jul 3, 11:19
- Dodger -- nm - amoxy Jul 3, 11:16
- Dodger Stadium? -- nm - znufrii Jul 3, 11:16 2
  - *ding* have a Dodger Dog. -- nm - spamlet Jul 3, 11:18
  - This -- nm - Capstern Jul 3, 11:17
I just finished the minidonuts that expired 6/21. the one I just ate was a little stale. prior to that, they tasted perfect. -- nm - amanda Jul 3, 11:12 1
- I think that says a lot about why you probably shouldn't have eaten them. -- nm - Cuzzin Todd Jul 3, 11:28
And speaking of Tumblr: What I did on my Summer vacation... -- (link) - Mop (190 lbs) Jul 3, 11:09 1
- very nice, and your costume was great! :) - -- nm - b. Jul 3, 11:24
So Tumblr is just basically your Facebook live feed crossed with Blogger or Wordpress crossed Geocities? It's hot! Use it! -- nm - Mop (190 lbs) Jul 3, 11:07 2
- Dude. - con_carne Jul 3, 11:08 1
  - Like half of the top 10 sites are this. Yahoo knows where the money is. -- nm - Mop (190 lbs) Jul 3, 11:09
Okay, time for everyone to take a break and SORT SOME SOCKS! -- (link) - mara Jul 3, 10:59 21
- i love sorting socks. -- nm - Andie Jul 3, 11:05 18
  - All my socks end up in the clothes basket after laundry - amoxy Jul 3, 11:20
  - After I win the lottery, my socks will be donated to charity after one wearing. -- nm - ty97 Jul 3, 11:18
  - my OCD kicks in hard with socks... - Mel Profit Jul 3, 11:16 6
    - You should consider numbering them. -- nm - Don Homer Jul 3, 11:17
    - You don't use the magic marker method? -- nm - spamlet Jul 3, 11:17 4
      - It's copyright Don Homer. I still think it's nuts. - spamlet Jul 3, 11:24 1
        
        hmm. are you sure? -- nm - tRuMaN Jul 3, 11:25
      - Good idea. -- nm - Krusty Jul 3, 11:23
      - EUREKA! -- nm - Mel Profit Jul 3, 11:21
  - Agreed. -- nm - Don Homer Jul 3, 11:14
  - Socks drive me crazy because the ones that look like they should pair are 1" shorter than the other one. How does that happen?? -- nm - Max Jul 3, 11:10 2
    - a blog i read sometimes recently stated that she declared sock 'amnesty'. she got rid of every sock in their house and bought two kinds of socks. - Andie Jul 3, 11:22 1
      - I believe Max is talking about socks you buy that are supposed to be the same - con_carne Jul 3, 11:25
  - I always sort my black socks last and then put them under my white ones -- nm - Paula Deen Jul 3, 11:07
  - I do too, actually, but then I'm an librarian/octopus. -- nm - mara Jul 3, 11:07 3
    - The extra arms make sorting easier, I bet. -- nm - TWuG Jul 3, 11:07 2
      - *finger to nose* -- nm - mara Jul 3, 11:09 1
        
        , *finger to hip*, *finger to north star* -- nm - Max Jul 3, 11:33
- Thank you! I've been meaning to get that done all week. -- nm - Mop (190 lbs) Jul 3, 11:04
- I solved the sock sorting problem by only owning one style of socks. -- nm - TWuG Jul 3, 11:00
BB 15 AAryn fired from her job for her racist comments -- (link) - peglegpete Jul 3, 10:57 6
- so CBS must cast this show based on pics alone without interviews. -- nm - Beaker Jul 3, 11:09 1
  - "If you lose, are you going to hurt yourself?" "No." "For reals?" "Yep." "For reals, for reals?" "Yep." "Oh, you're in." - Mop (190 lbs) Jul 3, 11:10
- What a horrible picture. Looks like I have more boob than she does. -- nm - Mop (190 lbs) Jul 3, 11:08 1
  - You and me both, boob-brother -- nm - Beryllium Jul 3, 11:14
- again? :) -- nm - znufrii Jul 3, 10:59
- she can be a server at Paula Deen's restaurant. -- nm - Max Jul 3, 10:59
Where To Find The Hipsters In 11 Major American Cities -- (link) - ty97 Jul 3, 10:50 8
- sounds about right - znufrii Jul 3, 10:57
- Goes back to what I said previously about it being in like two neighborhoods in Bklyn. - Krusty Jul 3, 10:54 2
  - who do you think is doing the writing? -- nm - loosilu Jul 3, 10:57 1
    - Good point. :-/ -- nm - Krusty Jul 3, 11:06
- Guess that means there are no hipsters in Atlanta. -- nm - Strongbad Jul 3, 10:52 2
  - yelp worldmap doesn't cover Atlanta. -- nm - loosilu Jul 3, 11:01
  - They just haven't heard of it. -- nm - Qale Jul 3, 10:58
- Just look for the smell of irony. -- nm - TWuG Jul 3, 10:50
I wish I were at the point in my life where I could still enjoy Bud Light. -- nm - ty97 Jul 3, 10:49 2
- the Sleemans Clear is our new beer of choice. 4% alcohol but only around 83 carbs - Beaker Jul 3, 10:57
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did anyone watch that show Siberia? -- nm - Beaker Jul 3, 10:45 1
- oh yes. its right in my wheelhouse. - Jovian Jul 3, 10:46
"L]ook around the room for cameras before you attack. Come on, that's like, rule #1 in How To Be A Violent Homophobic Asshole." -- (link) - ty97 Jul 3, 10:43 1
- So sickening to see people like that. -- nm - Krusty Jul 3, 10:51
re Zimmerman's account of his "attack" - charlie Jul 3, 10:43 11
- I wish we would call it what it was. Getting your ass beat for chasing a kid. - Will Hunting Jul 3, 10:46 10
  - The jury can still find him guilty of manslaughter even if they find him not guilty of murder, right? - Inigo Jul 3, 10:55 4
    - He's charged with second degree murder. I don't think they can find him guilty of a lesser charge, can they? -- nm - mara Jul 3, 10:55 3
      - yes, the jury is allowed to consider the lesser-included offense here -- nm - charlie Jul 3, 10:56 1
        
        Ah, I didn't realize it was included. -- nm - mara Jul 3, 10:57
      - B2 says they could. -- nm - Strongbad Jul 3, 10:56
  - Exactly. -- nm - Krusty Jul 3, 10:51
  - addendum to your first point - znufrii Jul 3, 10:51
  - That sounds about right. But I think you are misunderstanding what initiated things - TWuG Jul 3, 10:48
  - well the whole "get your ass beat" part is questionable. -- nm - Don Homer Jul 3, 10:47 1
    - Well, "Lose your supposed advantage in the confrontation you initiated" seems so znufrii'an in speech. -- nm - Will Hunting Jul 3, 11:04
In Oregon, a plan to eliminate tuition and loans at state colleges... -- (link) - Don Homer Jul 3, 10:42 54
- Here is a list of some countries with free post secondary education: - Andie Jul 3, 11:04 7
  - Oh man. What would free secondary education in the United Arab Emirates be like? -- nm - con_carne Jul 3, 11:06
  - So a whole bunch of 2nd world nations, a fair bit of 3rd world nations, and the French. - Will Hunting Jul 3, 11:05 5
    - i actually think the list shows that it doesn't hurt or help. Finland, Denmark, Norway are doing very very well, for instance. Others not so much. -- nm - Andie Jul 3, 11:08 1
      - also, i doubt Barbados or Malta would like being called 2nd world countries! (i would love to go do my Masters in Barbados!) -- nm - Andie Jul 3, 11:10
    - and scandanavia... -- nm - Andie Jul 3, 11:07
    - and a couple of the more desirable places to live on the planet (Finland, Denmark). -- nm - Don Homer Jul 3, 11:07
    - hey if Greece, Spain, and Italy are on the list it must be the financial prudent thing to do! -- nm - Beaker Jul 3, 11:06
- Wouldn't this disincentivize majoring in fields that are actually in demand and pay well? - Strongbad Jul 3, 10:47 43
  - Do you actually want to live in a world where everybody approaches school in this way, though? -- nm - con_carne Jul 3, 11:01 6
    - Yes. - Will Hunting Jul 3, 11:08 5
      - As it was mentioned below, surely you can see how problematic it would be to have the state getting into the business of deciding what people should - con_carne Jul 3, 11:17 4
        
        The State is NOT deciding what people should be studying in this Plan. -- nm - Strongbad Jul 3, 11:57
        
        That is a concern. But at the end of the day, college costs are out of control - Will Hunting Jul 3, 11:22 2
        
        Charlie is right. Public universities (which is what we're talking about) exist precisely to have some form of control over costs/tuition - con_carne Jul 3, 11:33
        
        costs are not out of control. tuition is out of control because the states have consistently reduced the portion of the costs that they pick up -- nm - charlie Jul 3, 11:27
  - I wouldn't think so - lawyers will still be lawyers. There are bigger problems with this approach. - Roger More Jul 3, 10:58
  - i think if a field is in demand and pays well, the people who want to major in it are going to major in it - charlie Jul 3, 10:52 19
    - I think if a field is in demand and pays well, a public university should do what it can to steer people towards it - Strongbad Jul 3, 10:55 18
      - I thought conservatives wanted "market forces" to decide all that for us -- nm - con_carne Jul 3, 11:03
      - what if they predict wrong? -- nm - loosilu Jul 3, 11:03
      - Why? -- nm - mara Jul 3, 10:57 14
        
        Part of the purpose of education is to provide students with the skills they need to enter and succeed in the workforce. - Roger More Jul 3, 11:02 12
        
        If they had no problem with me getting a literature degree under the old payment/loan system, why would they under this one? -- nm - mara Jul 3, 11:06 11
        
        Becuase you used to pay the costs of your degree. Those teachers will still draw a salary; now funded by the taxpayers alone. -- nm - Will Hunting Jul 3, 11:09 5
        
        Where does it mention taxes?? -- nm - mara Jul 3, 11:12 4
        
        How else will state schools fund their programs if they are no longer charging tuition? -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Jul 3, 11:13 3
        
        Okay, just read the article: That percentage pay is still going to be a form of taxation on the student's earning afterward. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Jul 3, 11:14
        
        According to the article, students repay by committing a percentage of their future income. -- nm - mara Jul 3, 11:14 1
        
        Yes, but that's still a form of taxation. "Every dollar you earn in your working life will have three cents removed from it at the start." - Name Withheld By Request Jul 3, 11:16
        
        Because under this system, taxpayers would be footing 100% of the bill. -- nm - Roger More Jul 3, 11:08 4
        
        Not at all. All students with degrees are contributing to the repayment. -- nm - mara Jul 3, 11:10 3
        
        If it's just funded by those who benefit from the scheme, I don't have an issue with it. - Roger More Jul 3, 11:20 2
        
        They're already doing that kind of counseling. This payment scheme is a seperate issue entirely. -- nm - mara Jul 3, 11:22 1
        
        Sure. But it's the question you asked. SB: "public unis should be steering students toward in-demand courses". Mara: "why?" -- nm - Roger More Jul 3, 11:26
        
        so they can be useful and economically productive members of society! - znufrii Jul 3, 10:59
      - i don't think they have an obligation to steer anyone anywhere -- nm - charlie Jul 3, 10:57
  - The "pay well" part isn't as necessary if kids aren't going into debt to get their degrees. -- nm - TWuG Jul 3, 10:50 5
    - Or put another way: The thing that is perturbing the educational system is the perception that pay rate defines social value. - TWuG Jul 3, 10:54 2
      - *blink* - znufrii Jul 3, 10:54 1
        
        :-) -- nm - TWuG Jul 3, 10:55
    - Student debt isn't the only cost of a middle-age lifestyle. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Jul 3, 10:53 1
      - the way Gen Y in America is going right now, it actually will be -- nm - charlie Jul 3, 10:56
  - Just for the money? Possibly. Nothing wrong with incentivizing going into a field of work you'd actually enjoy. -- nm - mara Jul 3, 10:49 8
    - From a society-planning standpoint, that's how you end up with a number of degreed citizens who feel they cannot find suitable employment. - Name Withheld By Request Jul 3, 10:52 7
      - The point is less student loan debt, not greater governance. -- nm - mara Jul 3, 10:55 1
        
        Every policy choice is about governance. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Jul 3, 10:56
      - instead of having a $100k degree and still unable to find employment suitable to service that debt? -- nm - charlie Jul 3, 10:53 4
        
        And there's no in between that and free? -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Jul 3, 10:55 3
        
        If it were up to me, I'd subsidize the hell out of education at every level. Knowledge is powerful - TWuG Jul 3, 10:58
        
        why should there be? -- nm - charlie Jul 3, 10:57 1
        
        A few reasons... One, it allows for some priority incentives. Two, when something is perceived to be "free", there are not-tiny segments who will.... - Name Withheld By Request Jul 3, 11:09
- man, if redmond gets pissed about people on food stamps buying Doritos -- nm - charlie Jul 3, 10:44
- starts to consider transfering to do my master's degree... and then, for the hell of it, start working on a 2nd B.A. -- nm - i'm not dead yet ! Jul 3, 10:43
We "fixed the glitch" -- nm - Egyptian Military Jul 3, 10:41
BB15 spoilers - Beryllium Jul 3, 10:38 5
- *spoils* - Strongbad Jul 3, 10:40 4
  - spoils - Jovian Jul 3, 10:44 3
    - I didn't find that as bad as - Strongbad Jul 3, 10:45 2
      - spoils - Jovian Jul 3, 10:48 1
        
        Yes, that was bad also. -- nm - Strongbad Jul 3, 10:49
So about those Egytian tourism ads.............. -- nm - ty97 Jul 3, 10:37
Fun new trend: people increasingly trying to board planes with loaded weapons... -- (link) - Don Homer Jul 3, 10:36 2
- lots of free cells in guatanamo currently -- nm - DaneDukeNuuk Jul 3, 10:37
- What could possibly go wrong? -- nm - ty97 Jul 3, 10:37

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