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In response to "I have a baseball question too. Maybe we've covered this...if so, don't be bitchy, just link me. It's about ARod, possible ban and the Yankees." by Jim

Yep, they get the ultimate Get out of Salary Cap Hell Free card.

Posted by Will Hunting (aka JoeMetz) Aug 2 '13, 12:01

they get a $20mil drop in payroll and then only get taxed at 17% over 189mil if they get 1 year under it.

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Doesn't that seem kinda like bullshit? A team like Anaheim will be crippled for years because of the Pujols contract... - Jim Aug 2, 12:02 61
- There's an easy fix here that's logical but not too logical - Will Hunting Aug 2, 12:12 34
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    - Relax, this isn't a Yankee-hatey. - Will Hunting Aug 2, 12:22 30
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        Here's the thing...this is a perfect storm that only affects the Yankees...but believe me, I would feel the same about the Brewers if Ryan Braun was - Jim Aug 2, 12:32 24
        
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        Because the Yankees and whatever other team willfully ignored the situation. -- nm - the liioulu with receipts Aug 2, 12:59 6
        
        every team in baseball has / had guys who used PED's and knew about it. - groiny Aug 2, 13:01 5
        
        As did Selig. - the liioulu with receipts Aug 2, 13:03 4
        
        he had to battle the players union to do anything, losing battle. - groiny Aug 2, 13:06 3
        
        Barry Bonds -- nm - the liioulu with receipts Aug 2, 13:07 2
        
        what about Barry Bonds? -- nm - groiny Aug 2, 13:08 1
        
        Selig was/is a huge fan. - the liioulu with receipts Aug 2, 13:10
        
        So, let me get this straight. Player X blows out his knee can't play anymore - salary cap hit. Player cheats, gets caught, gets banned - no salary - Jim Aug 2, 12:43 15
        
        Are the Patriots going to be hit on the salary Cap for Hernandez? -- nm - amoxy Aug 2, 12:53 4
        
        Yep, as soon as they cut him, they took a cap hit. -- nm - Will Hunting Aug 2, 12:56
        
        They cut him...so I would think any prorated signing bonus would hit their cap for this year, yes. -- nm - Jim Aug 2, 12:55 2
        
        and before any allegations have been proved -- nm - zork Aug 2, 12:56
        
        Here...the Pats are getting boned on the cap next year. -- (link) - Jim Aug 2, 12:56
        
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        So, the lesson here is "go ahead and sign all the steroid guys. they get caught...no worries, they'll drop right off your cap"? -- nm - Jim Aug 2, 12:47 3
        
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        It sets up, what I consider to be, an unfair situation. Pujols is a perfect example, IMO - Jim Aug 2, 12:55
        
        because the team is still paying the hurt guy. nm -- nm - groiny Aug 2, 12:44 4
        
        I don't see why that matters. -- nm - Jim Aug 2, 12:48 1
        
        the hurt guy will eventually come back (in theory). nm -- nm - groiny Aug 2, 12:59
        
        the insurance company actually, right? -- nm - zork Aug 2, 12:44 1
        
        sometimes, it depends on the guy and the injury. nm -- nm - groiny Aug 2, 12:59
      - No, it's not. -- nm - Jim Aug 2, 12:25 3
        
        it just so happens that the poster boy for PED's plays on the team. -- nm - groiny Aug 2, 12:25 2
        
        They're also at this point, the only team that gets the 189mil cascading tax - Will Hunting Aug 2, 12:29 1
        
        for this year, I agree, but for 2014, they should have him off the books. nm -- nm - groiny Aug 2, 12:30
  - Exactly. It's like an NFL team cutting a guy. They don' -- nm - Jim Aug 2, 12:13 1
    - t pay him anymore, but his prorated signing bonus hits the cap. -- nm - Jim Aug 2, 12:13
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  - That's the chance you take when you sign someone to a stupid contract. The Angels didn't know Pujols would end up on the DL in Year 2...why penalize - Jim Aug 2, 12:09 21
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      - If they had no idea, I might buy that. Might. But considering they continued to honor the contract after he admitted it, that's taking the - Jim Aug 2, 12:24 15
        
        They had no choice but to honor the contract. The CBA won't let them cut him. -- nm - Will Hunting Aug 2, 12:25 14
        
        This is true, but they could have tried to void the contract then. -- nm - Jim Aug 2, 12:26 11
        
        I have no problem with the contract being voided and the Yankees never having to pay him another cent. What I don't think is fair.... - Jim Aug 2, 12:28 10
        
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        In the NFL, it does if the player is murdered. The Skins had to sal-cap Sean Taylor after he was killed - Will Hunting Aug 2, 12:36 6
        
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        What team will suffer more? What small market teams are up against the cap? -- nm - Jim Aug 2, 12:45 3
        
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        I'm only arguing cap dude. I don't think the Yankees should have to pay ARod another cent. I'm with you on that. Void the contract...fuck him. - Jim Aug 2, 12:50 1
        
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        to discourage Parcells from taking out contracts on his players? -- nm - zork Aug 2, 12:41
        
        they go hand in hand, you can not have it all. nm -- nm - groiny Aug 2, 12:29 1
        
        Clearly the Yanks will get it all if he's thrown out. - Will Hunting Aug 2, 12:38
        
        well, they could have cut him, but still on the hook for his $. nm -- nm - groiny Aug 2, 12:26 1
        
        Right, but who's voiding a contract of a 32yr old MVP level player becuase he admitted to cheating 6 years earlier? - Will Hunting Aug 2, 12:31
      - but the player is obligated to try and to not do things that are against the rules of the game. The team didn't give the drugs to him. -- nm - zork Aug 2, 12:19 3
        
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        if it's proven that they had long-term knowledge and did nothing about it then they should be responsible for the money, otherwise no. -- nm - zork Aug 2, 12:32 1
        
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  - because it is the Yankees. - groiny Aug 2, 12:08 1
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- I agree. -- nm - Truman Aug 2, 12:04

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