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In response to "Edward Snowden truly is a hero. And, for what little its worth, should be certain to be Time Person of the Year, I think. -- nm" by Don Homer

A hero doesn't run and hide from the consequences of his actions... -- nm

Posted by Stephen (aka Sceire) Aug 15 '13, 19:38

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disagree. -- nm - znufrii Aug 15, 20:25 7
- Can I put some words in your mouth? :) "A hero does everything in his power to make sure meaningful change is effected." -- nm - Beryllium Aug 15, 20:26 6
  - funnily enough, I had actually typed up a longer response precisely along those lines. - znufrii Aug 15, 20:28 5
    - I'm not sure about this. Gandhi, for instance, did this - and he was successful in bringing about change -- nm - Roger More Aug 15, 20:32 4
      - (And I can also think of a lot of non-heroic people who don't think they should be accountable to systems they dislike) -- nm - Roger More Aug 15, 20:39 3
        
        Plenty of people we would classify as non-heroic or even evil, think of themselves as heroes or martyrs ... so your point is very true. -- nm - Beryllium Aug 15, 20:43
        
        well then, you can see why I truncated my initial response. :) -- nm - znufrii Aug 15, 20:41
        
        Personally, I think it would've been great if he could have stayed hidden and tried to get the NSA to show their hand in finding him ... :) -- nm - Beryllium Aug 15, 20:40
I'm still thinking my way through this, but you may want to check out this column in the WaPo by Daniel Ellsberg - Roger More Aug 15, 20:07
That makes no sense to me. I don't know how I feel about him and what he did, but the people he exposed are the ones making the rules. - Guigue Aug 15, 19:56
Hero != Martyr -- nm - Beryllium Aug 15, 19:44
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- Nope, I've never, ever, read a single comic book in my entire whole life. -- nm - Stephen Aug 15, 19:45 11
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    - Of false equivalences you clearly know much! -- nm - Stephen Aug 15, 20:17
  - *especially* not captain america -- nm - Beryllium Aug 15, 19:46 8
    - *Especially* not the issue where he turned himself into the authorities for his part in leading the anti-registration heroes... - Stephen Aug 15, 19:50 7
      - (After resisting so long that he got friends killed) -- nm - David Aug 15, 20:18 3
        
        The death of Goliath was blood on Iron Man and the governments' hands -- nm - Stephen Aug 15, 21:04 2
        
        If everyone agrees to register, he lives. So it is on Cappy and the others. - David Aug 15, 21:09 1
        
        But he chose not to register for himself so you can't really say that. -- nm - Stephen Aug 15, 21:26
      - Because he's a martyr. That's his character. - Beryllium Aug 15, 20:02 2
        
        (And to be clear, I don't mean that as an insult, just a comment on the depths of his character and his feeling of personal responsibility and duty) -- nm - Beryllium Aug 15, 20:05 1
        
        (and also, *I* don't read comics ... I'm judging by the movies alone) -- nm - Beryllium Aug 15, 20:25

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