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In response to "they jumped at this awfully quickly. to me that says they were legitimately afraid of an attack -- nm" by Reagen

agreed. which I can't figure out.

Posted by Mel Profit (aka mel profit) Sep 10 '13, 09:12

we were likely going to lob some cruise missiles at some chemical weapons launch sites (not even the storage sites). The launch sites, I assume, are long gone. The effect of these strikes was going to be pathetically ineffective and we couldn't even get those.

What Assad has to fear over these strikes is beyond me. But it does appear that they were concerned that they were going to happen.

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He looks like he's reasonable in giving up the weapons, he emasculates the US and gives these weapons to Russia, and doesn't get any bombs rained on - Will Hunting Sep 10, 09:17 16
- I think it's a mixed bag for the US. Less likely to be entangled in another Middle Eastern war + I don't know that they are interested in assisting - Roger More Sep 10, 09:22 11
  - Your second point is what I thought as well. I thought the rebels are pieces of shit too...and that we really didn't want to help them as much as we - Jim Sep 10, 09:27 10
    - Also..it seems like Obama was fucked no matter what he did on this. - Jim Sep 10, 09:32 5
      - I agree, but also Obama is partly responsible for that no-win situation. - Roger More Sep 10, 09:38
      - Agree completely. We can blame him for waffling, but every option was a bad one. There is no option without consequences, many of which are - pmb Sep 10, 09:36
      - word on that IM. -- nm - Diva Sep 10, 09:34
      - also, act, and Bachmann et al. take a trip to Syria and have a press conference accusing Obama of supporting Islamists. -- nm - znufrii Sep 10, 09:33
      - Proper fucked, yeah. -- nm - Beryllium Sep 10, 09:33
    - That's fair and reasonable, but at this point, we pretty much abandoned them. - Will Hunting Sep 10, 09:30 2
      - Again, your problem is with Russia looking better than the US, but they were always in a position to make this move. - con_carne Sep 10, 09:38 1
        
        I have a problem becuase there's a finite amount of power in the world. We gave some up via bad strategy. -- nm - Will Hunting Sep 10, 09:47
    - I wouldn't go that far, but I've read stuff suggesting that a year or two of war + lack of support from America have helped radicalise them. -- nm - Roger More Sep 10, 09:29
- The US got what we wanted, and since we don't actually have diplomatic ties to Assad, we got someone else to do the heavy lifting for us -- nm - con_carne Sep 10, 09:21 1
  - We didn't 'get' someone else, we were lucky that someone else stepped in after snubbing us at the UN. - Dr.Vermin Sep 10, 09:26
- I don't understand, what part of this is something that wasn't in our already stated goals? -- nm - con_carne Sep 10, 09:19 1
  - Giving Russia more power/leverage -- not punishing the murderous psycho for using WMD's --- giving hope to any rogue nation - Will Hunting Sep 10, 09:22

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agreed. which I can't figure out.

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