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PSA for the Boston peeps. This weekend and next. My friend's MS benefit/party/rock concert. -- (link) - znufrii Sep 11, 11:46
Not the Onion: Man on Fire - The Series! Creasy and Pita team up to take down the cartel. Again... NOT the Onion. -- (link) - Mop (200 lbs) Sep 11, 11:44 5
- Wait...(Man on Fire spoilers) - Inigo Sep 11, 11:49 1
  - I KNOW! -- nm - Mop (200 lbs) Sep 11, 11:51
- Could be good. Sort of a Leon and Matilda vibe there. -- nm - Dr.Vermin Sep 11, 11:46 1
  - 18 years later. She'll be in her 20's. -- nm - Mop (200 lbs) Sep 11, 11:47
- just no -- nm - Beaker Sep 11, 11:46
so, in Toronto Mayor(al candidate) news - the husband of the man who ran against Rob Ford has been found after being missing for two nights. -- (link) - Andie Sep 11, 11:44 1
- it's really like a TV drama series up there :) -- nm - decline Sep 11, 11:48
Clarification: I wasn't saying pick one. I wanted opinions on all three questions. :-) -- nm - mara Sep 11, 11:38 1
- *fist pump* -- nm - Spawn Sep 11, 11:38
Help me out, ST. Let's say you call a business or your public library or somewhere where you have a question. You don't hear the brrrrrrr sound that - mara Sep 11, 11:25 41
- when i get a recording, i immediately start pounding the zero button to try to get someone. -- nm - colin Sep 11, 11:48 1
  - *flex* -- nm - The Idol Sep 11, 11:49
- I would do 1....but knowing clients who call us (we are in the main library building)...you need to say you are unavailable, when you will be.... - Walt_Disney Sep 11, 11:33 1
  - Depends on how you define unavailable. If the reference librarian is 10-12 seconds away from being able to answer the phone, is she unavailable? -- nm - mara Sep 11, 11:35
- "Got the machine? Hang it up! Hang it up!" -- nm - Beryllium Sep 11, 11:31 1
  - "Can you guarantee my safety?" -- nm - Was Bar Was Sep 11, 11:39
- i don't care about not hearing a ring, but if there is no immediate message that someone will be with me shortly i assume they are closed. -- nm - Andie Sep 11, 11:29
- 1. no, this is getting pretty standard. 2. I will be very pleased if 'dial 0 to talk to a human' is offered quickly in the message. 3. no -- nm - Dr.Vermin Sep 11, 11:28
- yes, recall until I hear a ring, yes -- nm - CQ Sep 11, 11:28
- to me it means the place is closed if it says no one is available to take the call -- nm - Remlik Sep 11, 11:26
- 3 -- nm - amanda hk Sep 11, 11:26
- so I understand, after the recording the caller is sort of on-hold and the business/library may answer? -- nm - Don Homer Sep 11, 11:26 23
  - Ah, that's the next phase. I know what actually happens, but I'm not sure what the caller actually hears. After 10-12 seconds, the caller should then - mara Sep 11, 11:28 21
    - I think "nobody's available. press one to leave a VW or 2 to continue holding. here are ads to keep you company...." then again later repeat instr -- nm - amanda hk Sep 11, 11:33 1
      - But in that first 12 seconds, somebody may well be available. They just need a few seconds to answer the phone. -- nm - mara Sep 11, 11:36
    - 10-12 seconds is a lot of time -- nm - CQ Sep 11, 11:30 18
      - This....when calling a public office, people think this would be too long. They need to know where the call "is" -- nm - Walt_Disney Sep 11, 11:34 2
        
        Doesn't the sound of the phone ringing tell them where it is? It's in the first stage, where the phone on the desk rings and somebody sitting there - mara Sep 11, 11:40 1
        
        a phone ringing at my end doesn't mean that it is on a desk somewhere ringing. and it doesn't mean someone is there to answer it either. -- nm - Andie Sep 11, 11:41
      - True, but in actuality (spoiler!) - mara Sep 11, 11:33 14
        
        why can't you just make the opening line "thank you for calling (business name). We will be with you shortly." then launch into the info stuff ? -- nm - Andie Sep 11, 11:36 12
        
        Because we might answer the phone in 4 seconds. We often do, *if* they wait that long. -- nm - mara Sep 11, 11:37 11
        
        sure, but how many hang up? if people are hanging up, it doesn't matter that they SHOULD think, only what they DO think. -- nm - Andie Sep 11, 11:38 10
        
        Which is why some of us think hearing the sound of the phone ringing is better than hearing the recording right away. -- nm - mara Sep 11, 11:38 9
        
        but still, if your message doesn't say WHY they aren't getting a person for 12 seconds, that is a long time. -- nm - Andie Sep 11, 11:39 8
        
        How many rings is a reasonable amount of time? -- nm - mara Sep 11, 11:41 7
        
        2 rings. A rule of business. -- nm - Spawn Sep 11, 11:42 5
        
        but, if after two rings, it goes to a message system that doesn't tell you that you on hold.... -- nm - Andie Sep 11, 11:42 4
        
        "Thank you for calling [x], we will be with you momentarily..." -- nm - Spawn Sep 11, 11:48 1
        
        right. -- nm - Andie Sep 11, 11:50
        
        They're *not* on hold. They're hearing a recording, but they're not on hold. -- nm - mara Sep 11, 11:44 1
        
        but they don't know that, and, they sort of are on hold, even if they haven't been put there. because you haven't told them what the situation is. -- nm - Andie Sep 11, 11:45
        
        i don't think you need rings. i think your opening line needs to tell people that someone will be with them shortly. -- nm - Andie Sep 11, 11:42
        
        I agree with what you believe -- nm - CQ Sep 11, 11:35
  - I think it's like a ringback tone? -- nm - amanda hk Sep 11, 11:28
- 4. I wait until someone takes my call, regardless. -- nm - Spawn Sep 11, 11:26 1
  - This is my thought. My assumption (right or wrong) is that it's the way all calls are answered and the next operator will be happy to assist me. -- nm - Jim Sep 11, 11:29
- 1. -- nm - Shaun Sep 11, 11:26 3
  - lol -- nm - Spawn Sep 11, 11:26 2
    - Seems like a very standard way to set up an inbound queue for an office PBX. -- nm - Shaun Sep 11, 11:32 1
      - I did not think she was saying "pick one". -- nm - Spawn Sep 11, 11:33
Fan releases 8-bit Game of Thrones platformer. -- (link) - Shaun Sep 11, 11:19 1 1
- sweet -- nm - znufrii Sep 11, 11:27
NASCAR: 2 primary sponsors for MWR (NAPA and 5 hour energy) are reviewing their partnerships in light of the events at Richmond. -- nm - Strongbad Sep 11, 11:18 2
- I'd be shocked if they got dropped just for this. I wonder if they were already looking. -- nm - spamlet Sep 11, 11:23 1
  - I would agree. If they drop them for this, they were already considering it and use it as an excuse. -- nm - Strongbad Sep 11, 11:46
we've seen Oscar de la Hoya in drag, right? (sitwap) -- (link) - Diva Sep 11, 11:15 [Image] 1
- I thought it was a 'Save the Dolphins' PSA -- nm - ty97 Sep 11, 11:17
Steam announces family sharing. -- (link) - Shaun Sep 11, 11:14
SeriousEats.com reminds us that your waiter doesn't get the tip you gave him. Encourages us to "always tip the full now-standard 18-20%" - Mop (200 lbs) Sep 11, 11:12 18
- I tip cash, even when paying by CC. Yes, it goes to him or her. -- nm - Dr.Vermin Sep 11, 11:30 5
  - if they are honest, it actually doesn't. -- nm - Andie Sep 11, 11:30 4
    - I'm quibbling here, but yes it does. - Dr.Vermin Sep 11, 11:34 2
      - i am not talking about tax etc, i am talking about tipping out to other members of the team. - Andie Sep 11, 11:37 1
        
        Oh. Dammit. I stand corrected. The author is right. - Dr.Vermin didn't read the goddamn article Sep 11, 11:45
    - I write a check to the waitress! -- nm - Spawn Sep 11, 11:32
- I almost always tip 20% and at the places where I am a regular it's more than that. -- nm - decline Sep 11, 11:30 5
  - I tip 15 to 20 percent. If kieran's with us and makes a larger than normal mess, I go above 20. -- nm - Beryllium Sep 11, 11:37
  - I start at 20% then go up with good service. If someone gets only 15%, they must have done a terrible job. -- nm - David Sep 11, 11:32 3
    - it *kills* me to tip poorly because I know, I've been there. only once ever have I tipped less than 10%. - amanda hk Sep 11, 11:34
    - As an aside, the rest of my family is comprised of terrible tippers. - David Sep 11, 11:33 1
      - yeah, same with mine. -- nm - decline Sep 11, 11:34
- I usually tip 20%. -- nm - Kim Pine Sep 11, 11:23
- My guess is 15% is standard here. I do %18-20 in my normal haunts because they're pretty cheaply priced, and I order a lot of 1/2 price specials. -- nm - mara Sep 11, 11:19 1
  - my rule is "tip as if it weren't on special." -- nm - amanda hk Sep 11, 11:27
- Rather than tip low, we just don't go there anymore. We reward good service by eating there more often. -- nm - Strongbad Sep 11, 11:15 1
  - Yup. Bad service means we go elsewhere next time. -- nm - Mop (200 lbs) Sep 11, 11:20
- that is pretty standard here, actually. -- nm - Andie Sep 11, 11:13
Related to the music post on B2: I'm really liking both the new Miley Cyrus "Wrecking Ball" song, and the new Eminem song Berzerk. - JaxSean Sep 11, 11:12 3
- *blink* - Spawn Sep 11, 11:15 2
  - ikr? -- nm - JaxSean Sep 11, 11:20 1
    - Loathe wrecking ball. Recognized her voice when I first heard it. Have not heard the Em song yet. -- nm - Spawn Sep 11, 11:22
Facebook shares hit record high... -- (link) - Don Homer Sep 11, 11:11
What if art's greatest masterpieces were repainted in 8-bit? -- (link) - Don Homer Sep 11, 11:10
ha, so i just had to call my bank to have points applied to my card, and they were asking me the security questions - Andie Sep 11, 11:09
Hmm, this has got me thinking ... -- (link) - Beryllium Sep 11, 11:09 2
- Isn't that what I recommended a couple weeks ago? -- nm - Spawn Sep 11, 11:33
- in fact, it gives me a very interesting idea. Very interesting. -- nm - Beryllium Sep 11, 11:32
Actually, DDN...this is almost exactly what he said. - Jim Sep 11, 11:03 [Backboard] 15
- no he just said “I don’t think he did any of us lasting harm.”! - DaneDukeNuuk Sep 11, 11:08 13
  - He most definitely did say it happened to him and he turned out ok. Except he said it caused no lasting harm. - Jim Sep 11, 11:12 12
    - how can he know it didn't harm the other kids? -- nm - loosilu Sep 11, 11:24 3
      - Who gives a shit? This discussion is about Dawkins saying, dude felt me wiener and I'm ok. - Jim Sep 11, 11:27 1
        
        true...more or less -- nm - DaneDukeNuuk Sep 11, 11:33
      - he can't thats why he says "i don't think......" - DaneDukeNuuk Sep 11, 11:25
    - havent found the Time article but in the Salon piece he did'nt say "i turned out ok" he said he did'nt think it caused any lasting harm to anyone who - DaneDukeNuuk Sep 11, 11:18 7
      - What's the difference between "I turned out OK" and "I don't think it caused any lasting harm to anyone exposed to it, including me"? -- nm - Roger More Sep 11, 11:21 6
        
        one states a fact the other is a statement of doubt -- nm - DaneDukeNuuk Sep 11, 11:24 5
        
        The first isn't a fact, it's his subjective opinion, based on his experience. The second is also his subjective opinion based on his experience. -- nm - Roger More Sep 11, 11:28 2
        
        actually the first is an interpretation of what he said - DaneDukeNuuk Sep 11, 11:35 1
        
        Ok, yeah. I really don't care enough about the topic to carry on. nm - Jim Sep 11, 11:40
        
        So, he's expressing doubt about whether or not he's ok? nm - Jim Sep 11, 11:27 1
        
        not really since he never said the first - DaneDukeNuuk Sep 11, 11:34
- heh, headmaster. nm -- nm - groiny Sep 11, 11:04
Paragliding 'Fan-man' hunts marijuana in fields, farmer says ('Pot pirates' believed to sell GPS co-ordinates of illegal marijuana to members of drug) -- (link) - Beaker Sep 11, 11:02
getting caught up on some of the BB activities ... "mild pedophilia" ??? how does that even work? ... - i'm not dead yet ! Sep 11, 11:00 4
- maybe looking but not touching? -- nm - groiny Sep 11, 11:02 2
  - No, he specified that touching was involved. - mara Sep 11, 11:07 1
    - aah, I did not read any of that stuff. nm -- nm - groiny Sep 11, 11:07
- Only a little rape. -- nm - Mop (200 lbs) Sep 11, 11:02
$68 for a t-shirt? -- (link) - znufrii Sep 11, 10:59 9
- It Consumerist, the chronicle of people getting upset at stupid shit that don't matter -- nm - con_carne Sep 11, 11:13 2 1
  - [favourited] -- nm - Dr.Vermin Sep 11, 11:31
  - I agree that some of the stuff is silly, but stuff like banks foreclosing on the wrong house etc. most definitely not. -- nm - Don Homer Sep 11, 11:15
- That shirt's hella dough. -- nm - Ender Sep 11, 11:05
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- I'm thinking 99.99% of people have no idea who Screwdriver was. Some people just reach so badly to be offended -- nm - CQ Sep 11, 11:03 1
  - Word. Also, very few people are buying $68 t-shirts. And even fewer still are buying THAT $68 t-shirt. - Jim Sep 11, 11:07
- Capstern? -- nm - groiny Sep 11, 11:01 1
  - +1 -- nm - amanda hk Sep 11, 11:15
the most and least popular times for Americans to schedule a doctor’s visit during the week -- (link) - con_carne Sep 11, 10:59
Grambling has fired HC Doug Williams (former Redskin and Buc, also QB at Grambling) -- nm - Strongbad Sep 11, 10:58 1
- In Week 2? Wow -- nm - Will Hunting Sep 11, 11:24
The Time MLB Shut Down The Mets' Planned 10th Anniversary 9/11 Tribute -- (link) - Beaker Sep 11, 10:58 1
- eh -- nm - Don Homer Sep 11, 11:11
I would say Dawkins has the opposite problem from what I've read of him - Reagen Sep 11, 10:58 4
- thats quite a jump if you ask me - DaneDukeNuuk Sep 11, 11:04 1
  - to be frank, I didn't -- nm - Reagen Sep 11, 11:38
- It's the exact same reasoning that says "I haven't fallen and hit my head head, so why should I wear a bike helmet?" -- nm - loosilu Sep 11, 10:59 1
  - "I've been smoking for years and I've never had lung cancer, so why should I stop now?" -- nm - Beryllium Sep 11, 11:39
Irish singer/songwriter Gemma Hayes. Looks like a softer Natalie Dormer. -- (link) - Dr.Vermin Sep 11, 10:57 1
- fwiw: I'm not sure what's going on over there, but Ireland is turning out some very hot hotties. - CQ Sep 11, 10:59
Fenway in 3 days. *twitch* -- nm - CQ Sep 11, 10:56
any DC folks see the bikers in DC today? I saw the traffic jam on 395 this morning. -- (link) - loosilu Sep 11, 10:55 1
- Oh wow. check out this story on it. That photo is, I am pretty sure, from a totally different year. - loosilu Sep 11, 10:58
I want lemon sandwich cremes -- nm - amanda hk Sep 11, 10:55 2
- ooh, that sounds good -- nm - crash davis Sep 11, 10:57 1
  - all we had was oreo golden smile. ehhhh. -- nm - amanda hk Sep 11, 11:14
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- *rules the continent* -- nm - Oscar Gamble Sep 11, 10:54 1
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woodstock inn autumn ale. god I love bery. -- (link) - amanda hk Sep 11, 10:52 [Backboard] 4
- must have missed the original post. sounds delish. -- nm - znufrii Sep 11, 10:58 3
  - it's so different. I drank it for most of a fall in NH. not avail here obvs. I just IM'd brian that we should go on vacation to their inn this fall. -- nm - amanda hk Sep 11, 11:16 2
    - you know what did just make it out here though? Deschutes Brewery - znufrii Sep 11, 11:18 1
      - where's this from? -- nm - amanda hk Sep 11, 11:37
Looks like AT&T may have eyes on Vodafone's European operations. -- (link) - Mop (200 lbs) Sep 11, 10:51
Golf: Grounding your club - znufrii Sep 11, 10:48 3
- Oh, LIR for cricket. Scoring is easy. - Roger More Sep 11, 11:34
- touching your club to the ground in a hazard - Reagen Sep 11, 10:52
- When you're in a bunker, your club can't touch the sand until you're striking the ball. -- nm - Strongbad Sep 11, 10:52
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Whoops. -- (link) - Esquire Sep 11, 10:48 3
- I'm gonna need a ruling on whether I can laugh at this -- nm - con_carne Sep 11, 10:50 1
  - On 9/11? No. Other 364 days? sure. -- nm - volnelk Sep 11, 10:51
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