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In response to "sure, but crazy people without a gun aren't shooting and killing multiple people. -- nm" by Andie

Which is why attention should be paid to both sides of the equation

Posted by oblique (aka kkuphal) Sep 16 '13, 10:21

but a crazy person with access to a gun is still a crazy person out and about without the help they need

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taking away the crazy person's guns is an important step, though. -- nm - loosilu Sep 16, 10:27 15
- they still have access to pressure cookers. nm -- nm - groiny Sep 16, 10:44 14
  - *compares the number of people killed by an exploding pressure cooker, with the number killed by guns* - znufrii Sep 16, 10:46 13
    - sure, because guns are easier to get than building a pressure cooker bomb - groiny Sep 16, 10:48 12
      - I'm not sure how you think that proves a point... -- nm - znufrii Sep 16, 10:51 7
        
        if a crazy person wants to do bad shit, you think limiting his access to a gun is going to stop him? -- nm - groiny Sep 16, 10:53 6
        
        it's a completely different thing to go up to a person and stab them until they are dead and then go on to stab more people. -- nm - zork Sep 16, 10:56 2
        
        I think you and I should not discuss this topic at all. - groiny Sep 16, 10:58 1
        
        I admittedly screwed up -- nm - zork Sep 16, 11:00
        
        in some, if not many cases, definitely. - znufrii Sep 16, 10:55
        
        no. but it limits what he can do easily and quickly. -- nm - Andie Sep 16, 10:53 1
        
        I think very few one these incidents "happen quickly". nm -- nm - groiny Sep 16, 10:55
      - Your basic argument is "Americans are crazier than other people" -- nm - Roger More Sep 16, 10:49 3
        
        I am not sure where the blame lies, but we are sure more inclined to do shit than most. -- nm - groiny Sep 16, 10:51 2
        
        i don't know if that's true. i don't think Americans are crazier than anyone else, i just think you make it easier to harm others. -- nm - Andie Sep 16, 10:52 1
        
        ^^^ and this is a Canadian saying this. -- nm - Roger More Sep 16, 10:54
No one's saying that mental health issues don't need attention. But it's ease of access to guns that differentiates the US from the rest. -- nm - Roger More Sep 16, 10:25

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