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In response to "It's not that the overwhelming majority are being turned into trigger pulling killers..." by Mel Profit

I don't think it's actually happening more, as much as the scale is somewhat larger. If I was going to blame anything for that fact I would blame the

Posted by pmb (aka pmb) Sep 17 '13, 07:34

massive media coverage of these events that wasn't possible on this scale 30 years ago. These disturbed people become famous and that adds a level of attraction that wasn't there before.

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and this particular guy had signs of being mentally unstable from the get go. - groiny Sep 17, 07:37 2
- apparently he was treated at some point. Someone needed to TAKE HIS GUNS. -- nm - loosilu Sep 17, 07:41 1
  - Why do you hate law-abiding gun owners, loosi? -- nm - znufrii Sep 17, 07:47
ultimately I think the best solution is Gun Control but... -- nm - Mel Profit Sep 17, 07:36 19
- people have had guns for decades, why is it all of a sudden now that this is happening more? - groiny Sep 17, 07:39 18
  - Part of the cultural issue is the love of guns. I do think the media's fascination with this breeds more of it, but gun control would help. - pmb Sep 17, 07:49 4
    - I think there is a whole lot of things at play with the cultural issues..... - groiny Sep 17, 07:52 3
      - I agree there's a lot, which is why focusing on the tools used first makes so much sense. - pmb Sep 17, 07:59 1
        
        I agree with you, I am fine with taking the AR-15 and similar guns out of the equation. nm -- nm - groiny Sep 17, 08:03
      - I can agree with a lot of what you say here. There's no one cause. -- nm - Mel Profit Sep 17, 07:53
  - When did semi-automatics become available to the public? -- nm - Roger More Sep 17, 07:41 1
    - they weren't even invented until the 20th century. -- nm - loosilu Sep 17, 07:43
  - it's not 'happening more'. homicides, gun violence, and even mass shootings are on a long decline trend. -- nm - Dr.Vermin Sep 17, 07:41 3
    - I'd be interested to see the stats on this. -- nm - znufrii Sep 17, 07:45 1
      - Homicide's pretty easy to find data on. And the decline in crime over the 1990s has been talked about a lot in recent years. - Roger More Sep 17, 07:54
    - I don't know about that last part. -- nm - Roger More Sep 17, 07:44
  - if you think the gun laws haven't been weakened in the last 30 years there's no point in talking about it. - Mel Profit Sep 17, 07:41 6
    - sure, they have been, but IIRC this guy did this with a handgun. - groiny Sep 17, 07:45 5
      - he had three guns, one of them an AR-15. -- nm - loosilu Sep 17, 07:47 4
        
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        thanks. still tons of misinformation out there. -- nm - loosilu Sep 17, 07:54
        
        While I would like to own an AR-15, I would be ok if they removed those from circulation. nm -- nm - groiny Sep 17, 07:49 1
        
        we can agree on that. -- nm - loosilu Sep 17, 07:50

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