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In response to "Well she probably felt like the blame was placed on her. And you said it wasn't dangerous, so she's got no good reason to discontinue." by the liioulu with insects

1) Just because it isn't dangerous doesn't mean it should be given. There is no longer any indication to give it. Hence it was discontinued.

Posted by James Bond (aka Igor) (aka Igor) Sep 30 '13, 21:30

Yes, it was a standing order but that was an error. Since it is an error it gets reported and looked at. What if next time a more dangerous medication isn't removed and given. I am not blaming her for giving the med. I am however really annoyed that she would go behind our senior and ask other members of the team who aren't aware of the situation for an order.

Either way, the albumin should not have been given. If my team member would have agreed and written for it then my team member would have made an error given that it was clearly documented in a consult note 3 days ago that albumin should not be given (hence it was d/ced).

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You're not getting it. She obviously has no official order to discontinue. She does have a list that works as a written order. - the liioulu with insects Sep 30, 21:43 13
- My ass is already covered, I wrote an order to d/c a med and it was given. I won't take the liability of given this med by - James Bond (aka Igor) Sep 30, 21:51 12
  - Yes, her name is in it but it isn't her fault and I doubt anything will happen to her. Pharmacy or the previous nurse is where the problem was. -- nm - James Bond (aka Igor) Sep 30, 21:53 11
    - Wait was she asking for an order to give it or discontinue it? - the liioulu with insects Sep 30, 21:58 7
      - I think you are confused and thinking she wanted an order to stop it. Of course we stopped it. That wasn't the problem. -- nm - James Bond (aka Igor) Sep 30, 22:05 1
        
        See below. -- nm - the liioulu with insects Sep 30, 22:06
      - She was asking for an order to give it. She obviously stopped it once we informed her. She wanted us to cover her ass by back dating an order saying - James Bond (aka Igor) Sep 30, 22:01 4
        
        That was not made clear in your posting until now. - the liioulu with insects Sep 30, 22:06 3
        
        Sure it was, I got it right off. She wanted a CYA order written because she gave it (for whatever reason). I think your misunderstanding is because - Trish Sep 30, 22:22 2
        
        Exactly, I don't know the terminology so it wasn't clear to me. -- nm - the liioulu with less Oct 1, 15:39
        
        sounds to me like this nurse maybe had some serious mistakes in the past and doesn't want to come across the investigators again even if innocent -- nm - zeitgeist Sep 30, 23:25
    - If a new order were written then this whole situation would not be investigated. I don't know about you, but I want someone to look into why a d/ced - James Bond (aka Igor) Sep 30, 21:57 2
      - So..it's better the patient gets something that should have been discontinued so someone investigates? -- nm - the liioulu with insects Sep 30, 22:00 1
        
        The patient already got it. Hence, I want it investigated why a patient received something that was d/ced 3 days ago. -- nm - James Bond (aka Igor) Sep 30, 22:02
It is actually quite concerning how a medication that was d/ced showed up on the active list. -- nm - James Bond (aka Igor) Sep 30, 21:32 2
- ...in which I again mention that the hospital mistakenly tried to give my epileptic daughter her roommate's chemo drugs. nm - ralph wiggum Sep 30, 21:40 1
  - Yes, hospitals are dangerous. That is why we try to get people out quick, we can sometimes do more harm than good. It is always ideal to have someone - James Bond (aka Igor) Sep 30, 21:44

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1) Just because it isn't dangerous doesn't mean it should be given. There is no longer any indication to give it. Hence it was discontinued.

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