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hypothetical poll: you are the president today

Posted by Max Oct 2 '13, 11:08

If you're like me, you think the President is absolutely right and the GOP in congress is absolutely wrong. But hypothetically, pretend you're the President today and you get this offer:

We (GOP) will:
-stop attempting to defund the ACA
-stop attempting to delay the individual mandate for a year
-stop attempting to prevent a raise in the debt ceiling
-pass the CR today, reopening the government, with these conditions:

You will:
-agree to the medical device tax issue
-remove the exemption for the Exec and Congressional branches from complying with the ACA

If you're the President, do you take that offer?

Responses:

No. But I also wouldn't have given so many waivers and exemptions to businesses in the first place, so there is that. -- nm - Qale Oct 2, 11:37
Depends if I trust that you will do as you say (I don't) -- nm - ty97 Oct 2, 11:33
No. The GOP shot their wad on their worst case scenario. They've got nothing left. Wait them out and watch them implode. - Mop (200 lbs) Oct 2, 11:29
NO, because the Republicans will immediately break the deal - Brian Oct 2, 11:24
I would just keep Willy Wonkaing them. - the wrong element, bad guy Oct 2, 11:24
the GOP has never ever compromised a bit, the Dems and Obama went out their way to meet their concerns, even used a republican wrote healthplan, tryin - zeitgeist Oct 2, 11:23 8
- See, that's a bunch of bull. The ACA language is almost exactly what The Heritage Foundation proposed in 1992 - Mr. Havens Oct 2, 11:26 1
  - wasn't it Gov Romney's plan? -- nm - zeitgeist Oct 2, 11:42
- This is the part that always kills me about this is the Republican mantra that this was passed without their input. It's their frikkin' plan! -- nm - pmb Oct 2, 11:25
- but I think the pres gives them the medical device tax -- nm - zeitgeist Oct 2, 11:24 4
  - how are the republicans spinning that? what exactly is wrong with the tax in their eyes? - Epiphany Oct 2, 11:39 3
    - it's a tax. 'nuf said. -- nm - znufrii Oct 2, 11:41
    - pretty much. The 'no new taxes' and 'it will hurt small businesses' lines -- nm - decline Oct 2, 11:40 1
      - offs -- nm - Epiphany Oct 2, 11:42
No. ACA is now law and it's off the table. -- nm - Diva Oct 2, 11:18
The time to debate ACA was three years ago, when it was still a bill. It's law now, even after 40+ attempts to stop it and an unsuccessful challenge - Mr. Havens Oct 2, 11:16 1
- *likes this post with extreme prejudice -- nm - Epiphany Oct 2, 11:18
No. the revenue from the medical device issue is extreme. Money has to come from somewhere - Epiphany Oct 2, 11:13 13
- Can someone give me a quick run down on what the GOP wants here? - Mel Profit Oct 2, 11:16 12
  - At this point the GOP is looking for something to save face because they've painted themselves into a corner. So they're looking for something little - pmb Oct 2, 11:24 1
    - Thanks. I had a feeling some of this was what was happening. -- nm - Mel Profit Oct 2, 11:32
  - apart from repealing the law, wholesale? *shrug* -- nm - znufrii Oct 2, 11:21
  - This is where I think the media is failing us. There are maybe 4 issues at hand here, they're very specific, but smart people I know (ST) don't know - Max Oct 2, 11:18 8
    - My paper had full coverage with explanations, etc. on Sunday. With that said, it should have been done sooner, much sooner. - Kim Pine Oct 2, 11:38
    - I was down in Florida earlier this week and was impressed that the local news was doing a full half hour show devoted to explaining Obamacare. - pmb Oct 2, 11:29
    - Follow Bill Moyers on Facebook. He's always got good coverage on important topics, even if he's not always the one writing it - Mr. Havens Oct 2, 11:22
    - in defense of the news I haven't been doing a good job of catching everything (anything?) the last few weeks. - Mel Profit Oct 2, 11:20 4
      - I was home sick yesterday, had CNN and Fox on most of the time I was on the couch, and still don't understand the points -- nm - Max Oct 2, 11:21 3
        
        well, I can see your first problem right away... -- nm - znufrii Oct 2, 11:21 2
        
        too many episodes of Monsters Inside Me -- nm - Max Oct 2, 11:23
        
        couch potato? -- nm - Epiphany Oct 2, 11:22
I don't know what "exemption" to the ACA you're talking about in that last bit. -- nm - znufrii Oct 2, 11:13 5
- whatever Bill Kristol was talking about last night -- (link) - Max Oct 2, 11:16 4
  - I am not opening that shit. -- nm - Diva Oct 2, 11:20 1
    - Stop trying to outdo colin, Max. -- nm - Roger More Oct 2, 11:20
  - I don't even think he knows what he's talking about. -- nm - znufrii Oct 2, 11:19 1
    - and I feel dumber for having watched that. -- nm - znufrii Oct 2, 11:19
No - Kim Pine Oct 2, 11:12 2
- excellent, you have walked right into my trap of educating me. -- nm - Max Oct 2, 11:14
- (*any* fact checking organization) -- nm - Kim Pine Oct 2, 11:13
Serious question...is that Exec and Congressional exemption a real thing? - Jim Oct 2, 11:12 4
- my understanding is that the ACA requires them to purchase from exchanges, but the government would then provide employer subsidies for them to do so - znufrii Oct 2, 11:15
- I don't know. I was kind of hoping poll responses would provide some information for me. -- nm - Max Oct 2, 11:13
- No. -- nm - Kim Pine Oct 2, 11:12 1
  - That's what I thought, but there's been so much talk about it, I was thinking I was wrong. -- nm - Jim Oct 2, 11:14
Yep. -- nm - Dr.Vermin Oct 2, 11:11

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