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In response to "oof, shitty news about AP's son... -- nm" by Beaker

who beats up a toddler? that is horrifying. -- nm

Posted by Andie, Happy Thanksgiving Canada! (aka Andie) Oct 11 '13, 07:45

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Who leaves their two year old with someone in a "fairly new relationship"? -- nm - Spawn Oct 11, 07:49 13
- you expected him to take the 2 year old away from his mother? -- nm - loosilu Oct 11, 07:58 12
  - No, one of th elinks mention the mother is in a fairly new relationship with the guy and left him alone with him for what apparently was a somewhat - Spawn Oct 11, 08:01 11
    - assuming the kid comes out of it, I don't think he will be with the mother anymore. nm -- nm - groiny Oct 11, 08:04 9
      - she didn't do this though. -- nm - Andie, Happy Thanksgiving Canada! Oct 11, 08:04 8
        
        I would say that there is some neglect involved in leaving the child with this guy, no? -- nm - groiny Oct 11, 08:06 5
        
        yes and no. i guess it would depend on if this guy had any history of violence, etc. - Andie, Happy Thanksgiving Canada! Oct 11, 08:12 4
        
        I think it depends on how long of a duration she left them together as well. - groiny Oct 11, 08:14 3
        
        Long enough he was able to abuse him and then call for help. -- nm - Spawn Oct 11, 08:21
        
        well, yes. -- nm - Andie, Happy Thanksgiving Canada! Oct 11, 08:14 1
        
        There is a very short list of places I would *not* have taken my kid with me to if the other option was this. -- nm - Spawn Oct 11, 08:23
        
        She was negligent. AP has the money and now has the reason to get him now if he wants him. -- nm - Spawn Oct 11, 08:06
        
        I would equate it to driving a kid around without a seatbelt or a carseat if I was Ap and his legal team -- nm - Beaker Oct 11, 08:06
    - ohhhhhh. Jesus. -- nm - loosilu Oct 11, 08:02
Someone who should be executed. Sorry chap, you had your chance to be a part of society and you blew it. Enjoy being dead. -- nm - Shaun Oct 11, 07:48 38
- I'm pretty sure I would beg for a few minutes alone with him beforehand. -- nm - MDH Oct 11, 07:59
- Some things get me really close to reconsidering my general opposition to the death penalty. -- nm - znufrii Oct 11, 07:49 35
  - Can't believe I'm going to do this...but I have to defend znufrii here... - Jim Oct 11, 08:18 7
    - the length of this thread seems extremely out of proportion. -- nm - loosilu Oct 11, 08:32 4
      - See?? I'm defending znufrii...now it looks like loosi's agreeing with me. What next, ST?!?!?!? - Jim Oct 11, 08:33 2
        
        Vermin agreeing with you both. - Will Hunting Oct 11, 08:47
        
        next thing you know, the US will successfully switch to dollar coins! -- nm - loosilu Oct 11, 08:36
      - shocking, right? -- nm - znufrii Oct 11, 08:33
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    - No considering the possible rightness of other perspectives! Soft underbelly! - Reagen Oct 11, 08:20
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    - "close to reconsidering"... -- nm - Beaker Oct 11, 08:10
    - what was easy? -- nm - znufrii Oct 11, 07:57 24
      - Getting you to reconsider your principles -- nm - Roger More Oct 11, 08:06 23
        
        *shrug* - znufrii Oct 11, 08:10 22
        
        No one's saying he shouldn't be punished. But applying the death penalty to these sorts of crimes would create all sorts of issues -- nm - Roger More Oct 11, 08:12 11
        
        and I never said my stance on the issue has changed, so I'm not sure what the whole hulabaloo is about - znufrii Oct 11, 08:15 5
        
        I realise this, and I'm not having a serious go at you. But I also thought the obvious has to be said. - Roger More Oct 11, 08:25 4
        
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        when it is your kid, death need not be involved. - groiny Oct 11, 08:28 2
        
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        it does not really have to be. nm -- nm - groiny Oct 11, 08:30
        
        sure, but I'd bet alot of people's first thought was "that guy is a dead man if that was my kid" - Beaker Oct 11, 08:13 4
        
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        Sure - but taking your own revenge and wanting the state to do it are two different things - Roger More Oct 11, 08:15 2
        
        sure, you kick his ass, and you end up in jail longer than he does. nm -- nm - groiny Oct 11, 08:25
        
        he certainly wouldn't be beating any more 2 year olds. -- nm - Beaker Oct 11, 08:16
        
        I think the point is that you shold already be in place and not change with the wind? -- nm - Spawn Oct 11, 08:11 8
        
        you're confusing positions with values. -- nm - znufrii Oct 11, 08:16 4
        
        and also confusing venting anger with changing one's position. -- nm - znufrii Oct 11, 08:22 3
        
        True, you did say "really close to". -- nm - Spawn Oct 11, 08:25 2
        
        which makes it even sillier to make a thing out of it. - znufrii Oct 11, 08:28 1
        
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        there will always be circumstances that make you reconsider a position though. Otherwise you should just join the Tea Party -- nm - Beaker Oct 11, 08:12 2
        
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        Agreed. I am pro death penalty. And yes, I am greatly saddened when mistakes happen, but they do not change my opinion in any way. -- nm - Spawn Oct 11, 08:29
        
        heh, I tried to get your im into a post but I just couldn't hit enter -- nm - Beaker Oct 11, 08:11
- this -- nm - Beaker Oct 11, 07:48

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