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13 year old Californian boy shot to death by deputies...he was carrying a fake gun -- (link)

Posted by Beaker (aka anniebecca) Oct 24 '13, 07:42

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http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/california-boy-with-fake-gun-shot-to-death-by-deputies-1.2223464 (www.cbc.ca)

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it sucks for the family and community, but I can't fault the cops here. - znufrii Oct 24, 08:03 26
- Here's what I don't get though...why wouldn't the kid have dropped the gun when told to by cops? - Jim Oct 24, 08:11 25
  - I know, adolescent boys are usually so rational! -- nm - mara Oct 24, 08:21
  - no hablo ingles? -- nm - decline Oct 24, 08:20 11
    - in any country, if cops are pointing guns at me and I'm holding something? no matter what it sounds like they say, that thing is getting dropped -- nm - zork Oct 24, 08:22 10
      - and to make an assumption, a cop in that area, or one of them, had to be fluent in Spanish. nm -- nm - groiny Oct 24, 08:25 9
        
        They don't even have to be fluent...but you would think every cop in that neighborhood would be able to say certain things in Spanish. - Jim Oct 24, 08:29 7
        
        well, if they were not fluent, then that is just bad staffing. - groiny Oct 24, 08:31 6
        
        Also, the town is predominantly white -- nm - con_carne Oct 24, 08:36 2
        
        where did you see that? -- nm - groiny Oct 24, 08:38 1
        
        I see that now when I googled, I stand corrected. nm -- nm - groiny Oct 24, 08:40
        
        I think people would balk at spending public funds training cops in a language other than English -- nm - con_carne Oct 24, 08:34 1
        
        in California????? - groiny Oct 24, 08:36
        
        Every pair should have one on every shift...you would think. - Jim Oct 24, 08:32
        
        No. But they would know phrases -- nm - con_carne Oct 24, 08:28
  - there's a lot we don't know here. - znufrii Oct 24, 08:19 5
    - well, we do know he had the gun, and we likely know he did not drop it when requested. nm -- nm - groiny Oct 24, 08:20 4
      - yeah, and thinking worst case here brings me to some rather unpleasant ideas as to this kid's motives. -- nm - znufrii Oct 24, 08:23 3
        
        Well, there's 2 different worst case for me. Yours...that the kid was up to something. - Jim Oct 24, 08:26 1
        
        *nods* - znufrii Oct 24, 08:29
        
        *possible* motives, rather... -- nm - znufrii Oct 24, 08:25
  - scared and froze? -- nm - Paranormal Andivity Oct 24, 08:16
  - I'm sure he was indignant. Or defiant. Or confused. Just not immediately compliant. Rule one when being told to do something by the police is to do it - landbeck Oct 24, 08:13 4
    - Slowly? Disagreed. You do not even lower it to the ground, you drop it immediately. - hellSpawn Oct 24, 08:17
    - perhaps depressed/suicidal or delusional? -- nm - zork Oct 24, 08:15 2
      - or just a dumbass. nm -- nm - groiny Oct 24, 08:15 1
        
        definite possibility -- nm - zork Oct 24, 08:21
My first thought was about Al Powell. I am a bad person. -- nm - Roger More Oct 24, 07:46 27
- my first thought was ' ban fake guns" - Epiphany Oct 24, 07:47 25
  - What's the difference between this, and banning real guns? -- nm - Roger More Oct 24, 07:55 3
    - ban real guns! -- nm - znufrii Oct 24, 08:10
    - I was being sarcastic. - Epiphany Oct 24, 08:09 1
      - I was wondering, but groiny's agreement tipped the balance for me. -- nm - Roger More Oct 24, 08:12
  - I would agree, but this kid apparently was a dumbass. nm -- nm - groiny Oct 24, 07:49 20
    - see also "13 years old." -- nm - Paranormal Andivity Oct 24, 07:53 18
      - yeah, I know that, but there are several things about this that are not smart. - groiny Oct 24, 07:55 2
        
        the gun itself sounded dangerous in it's own right really. -- nm - Beaker Oct 24, 07:56 1
        
        And on top of that, he was carrying a second gun. -- nm - hellSpawn Oct 24, 07:57
      - Uhm, guns do not work if you are young? - hellSpawn Oct 24, 07:54 14
        
        no, i was just saying most 13 year olds ARE dumbasses. where he got such a 'toy' is the issue. - Paranormal Andivity Oct 24, 07:58 13
        
        look at some of the replicas on this site, which I order stuff from..... - groiny Oct 24, 08:01 6
        
        so - why HAVE those? serious question? -- nm - Paranormal Andivity Oct 24, 08:03 4
        
        to train for the real thing later. nm -- nm - groiny Oct 24, 08:06
        
        small penis -- nm - Beaker Oct 24, 08:05
        
        for shootin' varmints -- nm - decline Oct 24, 08:04
        
        Chicks dig them. -- nm - hellSpawn Oct 24, 08:04
        
        Yup. And the photo in the link looks like an AK. Period. -- nm - hellSpawn Oct 24, 08:02
        
        most pellet guns like that, have the bright orange tip, big enough to show that it is not a real gun - groiny Oct 24, 08:00 3
        
        The Federal Statue exempts replicas that fire metal pellets from the orange tip law. - decline Oct 24, 08:02 2
        
        I am guessing this is what he had.... -- (link) - groiny Oct 24, 08:04 1
        
        *smh* -- nm - znufrii Oct 24, 08:06
        
        it sounds like it was not even his gun. nm -- nm - groiny Oct 24, 07:59
        
        Oh, sorry. Misunderstood. Exactly. -- nm - hellSpawn Oct 24, 07:59
    - A thug wannabe, even. -- nm - hellSpawn Oct 24, 07:50
- Light 'em if you got 'em. -- nm - hellSpawn Oct 24, 07:46
Uh yeah, did you see the pic? It was a replica of an assault rifle. Very accurate. -- nm - hellSpawn Oct 24, 07:43 12
- I usually think it goes "drop the gun or we will shoot" not directly to the shooting -- nm - Beaker Oct 24, 07:46 11
  - The report I saw said they ordered him to and he did not. -- nm - hellSpawn Oct 24, 07:49
  - ""The two deputies repeatedly ordered the subject to drop the rifle " -- nm - ty97 Oct 24, 07:49 9
    - (that's a quote from the link you posted) -- nm - ty97 Oct 24, 07:49 8
      - I don't have time to read the news I just report the news! (I missed it when I read through, d'oh) -- nm - Beaker Oct 24, 07:50 7
        
        Now that I looked, it says it twice!!! -- nm - hellSpawn Oct 24, 07:51 6
        
        *wonders if that would be ironic* - JenBro Oct 24, 08:10 5
        
        snort -- nm - Epiphany Oct 24, 08:27
        
        heee. - zork Oct 24, 08:11 3
        
        actually ... - JenBro Oct 24, 08:14 2
        
        well ... - zork Oct 24, 08:19 1
        
        *smh* tough crowd ... tough crowd -- nm - JenBro Oct 24, 09:17

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