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In response to "Colorado approves pot tax (easily) and downs income tax increase (also easily) -- (link)" by ty97

I am ok with taxing the shit out of pot. nm -- nm

Posted by groiny (aka groiny) Nov 6 '13, 07:30

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- That and the time the police waste on it. -- nm - Spawn Nov 6, 08:01
- yep yep yep. and imo it clears the path for pot legalization elsewhere a little more easily -- nm - Jovian Nov 6, 08:01
- Absolutely. -- nm - pmb Nov 6, 07:42
- and maybe we can reduce the taxes on things like gasoline in the process. - groiny Nov 6, 07:41 35
  - We should stop subsidizing the oil companies for doing their jobs and making huge profits first -- nm - con_carne Nov 6, 07:50 1
    - that is ok too. nm -- nm - groiny Nov 6, 07:51
  - 57.5 cents/gallon in Illinois (18.4 cents of that is Federal, rest is state0 -- nm - ty97 Nov 6, 07:47 2
    - that is a lot of tax IMO. nm -- nm - groiny Nov 6, 07:49 1
      - That depends on how much does it cost to run the roads. 40 cent/gallon? 60 cents/gallon? 90 cents/gallon? -- nm - ty97 Nov 6, 07:57
  - Get rid of the sales tax on gasoline entirely. - Strongbad Nov 6, 07:46 11
    - pair it with a smaller carbon tax on fuels to offset the environmental costs of driving, and I'm with you. -- nm - znufrii Nov 6, 07:56 2
      - The incentive to go fuel-efficient wouldn't go away. You're still encouraged to buy less gas and drive less. -- nm - Strongbad Nov 6, 07:57 1
        
        But there are still environmental costs for burning fuel that aren't being covered -- nm - Roger More Nov 6, 07:59
    - or do what one of GA's representatives wants to do (HR 3264) -- (link) - Strongbad Nov 6, 07:49 4
      - That'll never happen, because transportation is a national priority as well as a local one -- nm - Roger More Nov 6, 07:56 3
        
        (note: This wouldn't prohibit states from cooperating to construct regional/national projects if its in their own best interest) -- nm - Strongbad Nov 6, 07:59 2
        
        It wouldn't prohibit it, it would just make it a lot more difficult. - Roger More Nov 6, 08:08 1
        
        It would absolutely make it a lot more difficult, I agree. -- nm - Strongbad Nov 6, 08:14
    - I cringe to think about what that would look like - Epiphany Nov 6, 07:48
    - A road sex tax? -- nm - Sir Paul Nov 6, 07:47 1
      - Hee. I just now got this. I'm slow -- nm - Epiphany Nov 6, 07:49
  - meh, they'll just take the cost of building and maintaining roads out of your wallet some other way - znufrii Nov 6, 07:46
  - We already have low taxes on gasoline. -- nm - ty97 Nov 6, 07:45
  - The tax on gasoline is probably 10% of the price at this point. - spamlet Nov 6, 07:45 15
    - I think that is too damn high. - groiny Nov 6, 07:45 14
      - Americans complaining about gas taxes makes me laugh. You want to see taxes on gas, come to Canada -- nm - Beaker Nov 6, 07:48 4
        
        Yeah, but thanks to the metric system, the prices still look good. -- nm - Spawn Nov 6, 08:04
        
        We've secretly replaced groiny with Grover Norquist. Let's see if anyone notices -- nm - Roger More Nov 6, 07:53
        
        you can afford it, you do not have Obamacare. nm -- nm - groiny Nov 6, 07:50 1
        
        Well, no, they have Obamacare+ -- nm - ty97 Nov 6, 07:55
      - It's not enough to fund the road we have. -- nm - ty97 Nov 6, 07:47 8
        
        what are tollways for then? -- nm - groiny Nov 6, 07:47 7
        
        I don't understand the question. The vast majority of roads (in Chicago and elsewhere) are NOT tollways. - ty97 Nov 6, 07:48 6
        
        where is the revenue from the Tollways going? -- nm - groiny Nov 6, 07:49 5
        
        usually tied to the costs of the specific tolled road. -- nm - znufrii Nov 6, 07:51
        
        As a general rules, tolls from tollways are intended to pay the debt incurred to build that specific tollway. - ty97 Nov 6, 07:51 3
        
        they force you to get Ipass here, or pay double tolls. - groiny Nov 6, 07:53 1
        
        The pass systems are typically much cheaper for the toll org to run. - Strongbad Nov 6, 07:55
        
        or to fund other improvements along that corridor, or a combination of several things. -- nm - Strongbad Nov 6, 07:52
We're generally cool with taxing things we don't buy. -- nm - ty97 Nov 6, 07:38 5
- We're generally cool with taxing people we don't like. -- nm - Strongbad Nov 6, 07:44
- Yes. Does that make " we" hypocritical? -- nm - Epiphany Nov 6, 07:40
- "and are not necessities" -- nm - Beaker Nov 6, 07:39 1
  - like movies and music? - ty97 Nov 6, 07:44
- If I were still smoking I would prefer expensive and legal to the old way. -- nm - Spawn Nov 6, 07:39
Just like alcohol, I agree. -- nm - Strongbad Nov 6, 07:36 10
- and cigarettes -- nm - znufrii Nov 6, 07:37 9
  - and puppies -- nm - Beaker Nov 6, 07:38 7
    - yes, all of the above. -- nm - Spawn Nov 6, 07:38 6
      - *gasp* -- nm - Epiphany Nov 6, 07:40 5
        
        Luxury tax. Tangent: Tomber, Bub's fish, died yesterday. - Spawn Nov 6, 07:41
        
        sorry love, you gotta pay. nm -- nm - groiny Nov 6, 07:40 3
        
        But I love and support puppies!! Ha -- nm - Epiphany Nov 6, 07:41 2
        
        I would love and support your puppies. nm -- nm - groiny Nov 6, 07:42 1
        
        Sweater Puppies! - Epiphany Nov 6, 07:45
  - yes, all of the above. nm -- nm - groiny Nov 6, 07:37

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