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In response to "Methodist minister defrocked for officiating his son's same-sex wedding (and refusing to promise he won't do it again) speaks out. -- (link)" by znufrii

I applaud this man's commitment to his ideals, and his focus on the inclusion and love of Christ. But I am befuddled his insisting that opposition

Posted by landbeck Dec 23 '13, 12:02

to gay marriage is contrary to Christ's Gospel.

Christ declared several things unequivocally, some of which seem to contradict. Yes, he was inclusive concerning sinners (though during his mortal ministry, he only preached to Jews, the inclusion of Gentiles came later). But he was never tolerant of sin, and to the extent he ever forgave someone who was sinning, he always exhorted them to *stop* and to not do it again.

The very matter-of-fact conclusion many people have reached regarding gay marriage or homosexuality (and frankly, the whole range of sexual lifestyles and behaviors), that it has never been contrary to the morality demanded by Christ is just perplexing to me.

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those that hate gays the loudest seem to be a whole more tolerant towards the rest of the adultry spectrum -- nm - zeitgeist Dec 23, 13:43
Not everyone believes that homosexuality was deemed a sin in the bible. - the liioulu with Dec 23, 13:18
I freely admit that textual and theological arguments are above my pay grade, but having said that... - znufrii Dec 23, 12:12 4
- Sometimes znu is correct. This is one of those times. - Spawn Dec 23, 12:16 3
  - I admire his sentiment, I just disagree that it accurately captures what Christ taught. Yes, love is critical, but it's not the *only* thing. was -- nm - landbeck Dec 23, 12:20 2
    - The prime directive of the Bible is love without judgment. Any argument that says, "Okay, let's ignore that in this one instance" is obviously corrupt -- nm - David Dec 23, 13:21
    - good thing I'm not trying to be accurate to what Christ taught, then. :) - znufrii Dec 23, 12:30
Or, maybe He was just wrong. - TWuG Dec 23, 12:06 3
- "He" being Jesus, or the Minister before he changed his stance? Arguing that forbidding homsexuality = bigotry is certainly a legitimate stance. -- nm - landbeck Dec 23, 12:14 2
  - Capitalized to indicate Jesus. -- nm - TWuG Dec 23, 12:38
  - I'm no bible scholar, but let's assume that Christ is infallible. Those who wrote the bible and tell the stories are not. It seems to me there are - pmb Dec 23, 12:23

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