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In response to "Quarterbacks always get long term deals. It's a salary cap management tool. I don't think it's that hard to understand." by pmb

Really good QBs get long term deals. Cutler doesn't have the team record or personal resume to be regarded as a really good QB.

Posted by Inigo (aka Inigo) Jan 2 '14, 08:17

As Jim said, his backup severely outplayed him in the same offense. I'll have to see how much of a signing bonus they gave him, but at first sight this seems like a bad move.

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He's 56-48 as a starter, 32-19 over the past 4 seasons. - David Jan 2, 08:25 24
- Even in the NFC North, a .538 winning percentage doesn't get you in the playoffs. - Inigo Jan 2, 08:29 13
  - But perennial 11-5 seasons would. - David Jan 2, 08:32 12
    - The problem I have is that offensive explosion you and others are expecting already happened with McCown at QB. - Inigo Jan 2, 08:41 10
      - McCown's three best games came against the teams who were 23, 31 and 32 in YPA allowed in 2013. - David Jan 2, 08:54 1
        
        INTs are huge reason why Cutler hasn't yet excelled in the league. - Inigo Jan 2, 09:07
      - and the question really is, who are you going to bring in who is going to be better? -- nm - groiny Jan 2, 08:46
      - see, you can not really look at the QB without looking at what he has around him. - groiny Jan 2, 08:43 6
        
        I'm not saying bring in any guy to replace him, but 7 years at a (I'm guessing) high salary is a huge investment. - Inigo Jan 2, 08:54 1
        
        keep in mind, they can pretty much cut him at any point. nm -- nm - groiny Jan 2, 08:56
        
        'Sup. -- nm - Matt Flynn Jan 2, 08:46 3
        
        2 years ago, Freeman looked like a sure thing. nm -- nm - groiny Jan 2, 08:47 2
        
        I would've taken Cutler over Freeman any day. -- nm - Shaun Jan 2, 08:49
        
        What a loser he is. -- nm - Matt Cassel Jan 2, 08:48
    - he is frustrating to watch sometimes, but overall, I take this over Grossman, Orton, Haney, etc..... -- nm - groiny Jan 2, 08:33
- Cutler really does get ripped apart here more than he deserves. - groiny Jan 2, 08:26
- And that's with offensive lines and that nearly got him killed for most of those years. The bears offense was the best offense they've had since the - pmb Jan 2, 08:26 8
  - you think they should have brought Urlacher back for one more year? - groiny Jan 2, 08:27 7
    - No question. He would have helped develop Bostic and the other young guys. Even having lost a step or two I don't think guys would have been out of - pmb Jan 2, 08:31 3
      - and I do think Bostic is going to be good, but he is a year away I think. nm -- nm - groiny Jan 2, 08:38 1
        
        I think that's probably right. Again, it hurt a lot not having a veteran linebacker in the scheme with the young guys. If Briggs was there all - pmb Jan 2, 08:41
      - I agree, they bring him back for a bit more than they offerred him. - groiny Jan 2, 08:34
    - I think Urlacher was done but I also think that when they hired an offensive genius, they were ceding the defense some. - David Jan 2, 08:29 2
      - they said they were going to stick with a similar defense to what they had the last few years - groiny Jan 2, 08:30 1
        
        It made absolute sense to do that with their players until they all got injured. I still don't think the scheme is the problem. I think it was - pmb Jan 2, 08:32
His back up really didn't severely outplay him (though McCown played great). But McCown is 34. He would be a short term decision and then its a - pmb Jan 2, 08:24 9
- The key is that Jeffery looks like he's going to be better than Marshall, and Marshall is a stud. - David Jan 2, 08:27 8
  - Things can obviously change, but Marshall has been a great teammate and member of the community since he got here. He has dealt with some significant - pmb Jan 2, 08:29 7
    - I agree, He has been way better than expected, and he actually seems personable. nm -- nm - groiny Jan 2, 08:30 6
      - I will say that I have been very impressed with his public comments twice this year. - David Jan 2, 08:34 5
        
        the four headed monster of Forte, Marshall, Jeffery and M Bennett is going to be fun to watch. - groiny Jan 2, 08:37 4
        
        I owe my fantasy success this year to that team. I had Forte, Jeffrey, Bennett and then picked up Cutler/McCown. - pmb Jan 2, 08:40 3
        
        That's brutal because I have no idea why that play wasn't challenged. He was a full yard into the end zone. -- nm - David Jan 2, 08:56 1
        
        uh huh -- nm - groiny Jan 2, 08:58
        
        yes, finished first with Forte, Bennett Jeffery and Marshall. - groiny Jan 2, 08:41
I'll add here that I'm not saying they should have paid McCown. Under no circumstance do I think that. - Jim Jan 2, 08:23 1
- Agreed on all counts. -- nm - Inigo Jan 2, 08:24

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Really good QBs get long term deals. Cutler doesn't have the team record or personal resume to be regarded as a really good QB.

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