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In response to "I didn't mean to say the minivan would win off the line " by Reagen

oh, sure. i don't disagree. but they're still minivans! and i actually agree with david's point....

it's pretty amazing to me that the world's transportation is essentially still completely dependent on basic technology invented at the end of the 19th century and the early twentieth. we are still essentially beholden to the combustion engine and the steam turbine, which is sort of amazing.

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