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In response to "I don't think Benoit ever gets in (and shouldn't) but I am glad they are opening up his old matches for viewing though" by Beaker

no, he never truly ever hit superstar level IMO. nm -- nm

Posted by groiny (aka groiny) Jan 14 '14, 09:52

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He was a WCW *and* WWF champion and the best wrestler in the world. He was a slam dunk. - David Jan 14, 10:07 26
- in those years, championships changed hands every month. nm -- nm - groiny Jan 14, 10:08 25
  - He would have been the WCW champion for a long time if he had stayed. It was a CM Punk situation. -- nm - David Jan 14, 10:18 22
    - I put Beniot and Luger is a very similar status. - groiny Jan 14, 10:22 3
      - I am with you on Luger. Zero mic skills. -- nm - Shaun Jan 14, 10:31
      - Benoit had that one thing that no guy has now and likely never will again... - Mel Profit Jan 14, 10:26 1
        
        right, his ring abilities were top notch. I certainly do not dispute that. nm -- nm - groiny Jan 14, 10:28
    - I am not so sure. nm -- nm - groiny Jan 14, 10:20 16
      - There's no denying it. They made him champion to try to get him to stay. - David Jan 14, 10:23 15
        
        Perry Saturn was the 4th -- nm - Beaker Jan 14, 10:26 4
        
        didn't the WWE do a huge Jericho puch shortly before that? - groiny Jan 14, 10:27 3
        
        Actually --- Jericho debuted in July/August 99....the Benoit 4 jumped in Jan/Feb 2000... - Will Hunting Jan 14, 10:34 1
        
        well, Jericho was a better ring presence than Benoit, so there is that. nm -- nm - groiny Jan 14, 10:35
        
        yeah at least a year before that. -- nm - Remlik Jan 14, 10:30
        
        and why did he walk out then? - groiny Jan 14, 10:24 9
        
        Do you not remember this at all? He felt Bischoff had mistreated him for years. -- nm - David Jan 14, 10:26 8
        
        so, he was underused for years in the WCW..... - groiny Jan 14, 10:27 4
        
        How many guys are immediately given a heel faction and a title run when they join a new company? - David Jan 14, 10:30 3
        
        and keep in mind, I was a big fan of Benoit. - groiny Jan 14, 10:34
        
        where are all the Benoit T-Shirts? - groiny Jan 14, 10:33 1
        
        WCW was near death when he left. They were about 13months from being bought out. -- nm - Will Hunting Jan 14, 10:35
        
        (And Chris Sullivan, the ex of his girlfriend, was the WCW booker at the time) -- nm - David Jan 14, 10:27 2
        
        and they haaaaaaaated each other -- nm - Beaker Jan 14, 10:28 1
        
        (the guy who writes wrestling stuff for Grantland posted some from his book on this subject recently) -- nm - Beaker Jan 14, 10:29
    - David Arquette was the WCW champion at one point. I think that pretty well negates that as a HOF qualifier, yes? -- nm - Jim Jan 14, 10:20
  - don't blame the wrestlers for WCW's stupidity -- nm - i'm not dead yet ! Jan 14, 10:16 1
    - you have to, if you are using championships as a guage. - groiny Jan 14, 10:19
i have to diagree here ... he busted his ass for years before getting the recognition and title stuff that he deserved ... - i'm not dead yet ! Jan 14, 09:54 7
- You're over-stating his career / impact. - Will Hunting Jan 14, 10:01 4
  - Randy Orton's personality isnt really much better than Benoit's - eag Jan 14, 10:03 3
    - Orton's personality sucks, but he's tall, built and reasonably handsome.... - Will Hunting Jan 14, 10:04 2
      - Plus, the RKO rules. -- nm - Shaun Jan 14, 10:12
      - *poops in your luggage* -- nm - Beaker Jan 14, 10:05
- there are a ton of wrestlers who were great in the ring, but to be superstar level, they have to do more than that. nm -- nm - groiny Jan 14, 09:56
- he was definately a gatekeeper....he was the guy if you could have a great match with you got pushed to the A level.. - Remlik Jan 14, 09:56
I think had he not gone postal on his family he would have gotten in -- nm - eag Jan 14, 09:53 9
- Koko B Ware is in the WWE Hall of Fame. Let's not treat it as anything approaching legitimate. -- nm - Will Hunting Jan 14, 10:02 5
  - And sadly The Bushwackers are not in -- nm - eag Jan 14, 10:06 1
    - if Luke and Butch get in I hope it is as The Sheepherders -- nm - Beaker Jan 14, 10:08
  - did the parrot get in to? -- nm - Beaker Jan 14, 10:03 2
    - Frankie went in before Koko. -- nm - Will Hunting Jan 14, 10:03 1
      - heh awesome -- nm - Beaker Jan 14, 10:05
- his ring skills were fantastic, his mic skills were not. nm -- nm - groiny Jan 14, 09:54 2
  - agree. -- nm - Remlik Jan 14, 09:56
  - Agree -- nm - eag Jan 14, 09:55

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