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Benoit's career is much like Kane's imo. Neither was ever the guy for an organization that was healthy, however both had moments at the top but

Posted by Will Hunting (aka Joemetz) Jan 14 '14, 10:39

were always going to be short-term guys until the next 'real' star would be ready to take over.

WCW in 1999/2000 didn't have a choice. All their big names were taking dumps on the product or were injured and Benoit/Eddie/Malenko were dependable and had some legitimate hardcore credibility with rabid fans.

But they didn't think they had a legitimate shot and when someone asked if anyone wanted out, they said sure and were hired within days by WWE and immediately turned into mid-carder to upper-mid-carders (much like at the time Angle/Jericho/Tazz).

Guys who could show upward mobility but weren't guaranteed it if they didn't adapt to WWE style.

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The best analog for Benoit was probably Brett Hart. -- nm - David Jan 14, 10:46 28
- Disagree. - groiny Jan 14, 10:51 19
  - I -like- Brett Hart and I still fast forwarded through his interviews. - David Jan 14, 10:52 18
    - for sure. Brett is in my all time top 5 favorites. - groiny Jan 14, 10:53 11
      - Benoit had that as well, and that's the point. Benoit was the guy in ECW who proved himself the most, and that's the highest compliment I can give. -- nm - David Jan 14, 10:55 10
        
        I know very little about ECW, I did not watch it then. - groiny Jan 14, 10:59 9
        
        If you get WWE Channel, you should spend the first month watching ECW. - David Jan 14, 11:01 8
        
        show me a guy who sells a lot of merchandise, and I will show you a top tier wrestler. - groiny Jan 14, 11:04 3
        
        Cena has sold a country ton of stuff. He's still a goofy white guy that most people over 15 despise. - David Jan 14, 11:07 2
        
        he is....but I've seen Cena when he was OVW. he can go...he can do other stuff, he just doesn't need to and hasn't for 10 years... - Remlik Jan 14, 11:12 1
        
        He pulls out a new move for many pay-per-views. I'll never understand the hate for Cena. He is a decent wrestler with uncanny strength who has put - pmb Jan 14, 11:53
        
        Becuase pro wrestling isn't about who's best..it's about who makes the most revenue for the company. -- nm - Will Hunting Jan 14, 11:03 3
        
        That's like saying Grey's Anatomy is better than Justified because it gets higher ratings. - David Jan 14, 11:06 2
        
        Wrestling isn't a high enough art form for people to care much beyond "Who made the most money." - Will Hunting Jan 14, 11:26 1
        
        I think that the people on this board are the first ones I have ever seen evaluate wrestling based upon "Who made the most money." - David Jan 14, 11:29
    - the big thing I always liked about Bret is that he says the best thing of his career is never hurting anyone in the ring -- nm - Beaker Jan 14, 10:53 5
      - I completely agree and that's why it espeically sucks that Goldberg may have caused his stroke. -- nm - David Jan 14, 10:55 3
        
        at least he did not get dropped from the ceiling. nm -- nm - groiny Jan 14, 11:05 2
        
        Have you seen the War Games where Sid almost kills a guy that way? -- nm - David Jan 14, 11:09 1
        
        Ooh, it's on YouTube. -- (link) - David Jan 14, 11:11 [youtube]
      - other than punching out Vince (but that was backstage) -- nm - Beaker Jan 14, 10:54
- Hart was one of the most recognizable athletes in the World at one point. No comparison -- nm - Beaker Jan 14, 10:46 7
  - He had a bland personality and tremendous ring skill. -- nm - David Jan 14, 10:51 5
    - but he had a gimmick, with the razor shades, and the pink and leather ring garb. - groiny Jan 14, 10:52
    - ahh, I see that comparison certainly (but he was miles better on the mic than Benoit). -- nm - Beaker Jan 14, 10:52 3
      - Bret Hart improved with time on the mic - eag Jan 14, 10:58 1
        
        Benoit would have been fine on the mic in 1979. - groiny Jan 14, 11:00
      - it took everything Benoit had not to drool all over himself when on the mic. nm -- nm - groiny Jan 14, 10:54
  - throw in his tag team time with The Anvil and he is a no-doubt HOFer -- nm - Beaker Jan 14, 10:48
that's kind of what I was arguing earlier ... Benoit was right there ready to be a superstar ...granted, ... - i'm not dead yet ! Jan 14, 10:43 1
- while I tend to agree with you...the business was changing...and at his age he really was the gatekeeper for the Upper Mid Card guys... - Remlik Jan 14, 10:46
Jericho has always said over the past few years that when he got to the WWE he was an idiot. thought he knew everything... - Remlik Jan 14, 10:43 3
- Plus everyone knows that The Spinerooni was the most devastating move in wrestling. -- nm - Shaun Jan 14, 10:44 2
  - The Worm! -- nm - Beaker Jan 14, 10:45 1
    - no .. gotta go w/ the spinarooni -- nm - i'm not dead yet ! Jan 14, 10:58
Groiny --- Jericho has the better personality, but he had a *lot* of trouble adjusting to the WWE style. - Will Hunting Jan 14, 10:43

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