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In response to "Reveal. The ends don't justivy the means. -- nm" by JaxSean

But the means have already happened, so why not enjoy the end? -- nm

Posted by Cuzzin Todd (aka cuzzintodd) Mar 3 '09, 10:13

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Becuase it's not the end. It's just the end of the first genocidal action perpetrated by the bad guys. -- nm - Will Hunting Mar 3, 10:15
Just because Bin Laden "united" America, it doesn't justify the means. He still needs to answer for the crime. -- nm - JaxSean Mar 3, 10:15 19
- How did UBL get brought into this seeing as in the original post; - Loyola Mar 3, 10:20 10
  - Because while it wasn't the original intent of the action, it still brought a nation together to focus and champion a cause against Terrorism. - JaxSean Mar 3, 10:24 4
    - But for the analogy to hold, that line of thought would have you believe that the nation pre 9/11 was tearing itself apart. - Loyola Mar 3, 10:27 2
      - well, take a look at the 2000 election... -- nm - znufrii, older, no wiser Mar 3, 10:29 1
        
        Hardly at the brink of nuclear war now. In fairness like. -- nm - Loyola Mar 3, 10:32
    - Now, let's expand on that: Bush and Chaney faked the 911 attacks but succeeded in eliminating terrorism. You know they - TWuG Mar 3, 10:27
  - Basically, after 9/11, it was the world vs Afghanistan/Al Queda. - Will Hunting Mar 3, 10:21 4
    - But that international unity fell apart pretty quickly as different countries had different ideas on how to respond to the threat -- nm - Alan More Mar 3, 10:23 2
      - And, of course, after Bush opened his mouth ... -- nm - Beryllium Mar 3, 10:24 1
        
        that was *one* of the different ideas. I don't put it all on Bush though -- nm - Alan More Mar 3, 10:25
    - for a coulpe weeks, at least -- nm - znufrii, older, no wiser Mar 3, 10:23
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  - The intent still doesn't justify the action, in my opinion. -- nm - JaxSean Mar 3, 10:16 5
    - I think the question of justification is irrelevant once the action has taken its course. -- nm - znufrii, older, no wiser Mar 3, 10:20 4
      - *Marvels that he is agreeing with Znu* -- nm - Dr.Vermin Mar 3, 10:21 3
        
        *braces for quantum singularity* -- nm - Reagen Mar 3, 10:22
        
        the only motive I can see for revealing is to be retributive, which I see being less than useful. -- nm - znufrii, older, no wiser Mar 3, 10:22 1
        
        In this conversation, it sounds like people are suggesting it would be "preventative", but I think they misread the original supposition. -- nm - Beryllium Mar 3, 10:26
  - and truth be told, he didn't do all that great of a job of it, either... -- nm - znufrii, older, no wiser Mar 3, 10:16
Because the chances of a group who killed three million people never doing anything horrible again are pretty much nil. - Inigo Mar 3, 10:14

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