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ST Moral Poll, Part 2. Part 1 is established. Does your opinion change if Part 1 is just step 1 in that groups

Posted by TWuG Mar 3 '09, 10:31

desire to create what amounts to Utopia?

Keeping in mind that this group has set itself up to be answerable to noone but itself and only its version of Utopia will be acceptable.

Do you reveal the secret behind step 1 now?

Absolutely.

Responses:

Yes. And right away, before something happens to me. -- nm - Tauruschach Mar 3, 10:42
I would tell. There is no such thing as Utopia. - lileve Mar 3, 10:39 9
- actually a democratic communist society would pretty much be utopia - znufrii, older, no wiser Mar 3, 10:46 5
  - It would never work. There would always be a resistance. - lileve Mar 3, 11:00
  - It isn't Utopia if you have to kill the people that would want to live there. -- nm - TWuG Mar 3, 10:47 3
    - "would not" My typing sucks of late. -- nm - TWuG Mar 3, 10:49 1
      - how could it be utopia if it contained people who didn't want to be there? -- nm - znufrii, older, no wiser Mar 3, 10:53
    - we wouldn't kill the people who'd want to live there, just everyone else. -- nm - znufrii, older, no wiser Mar 3, 10:48
- I think of Communism as (slightly) more of an economic than political structure. Everyone can be united and still capitalists. :) -- nm - Dr.Vermhattan Mar 3, 10:42
- And if there was, would you really want to live there? - con_carne Mar 3, 10:41 1
  - No I would not want to live there. There needs to be a balance. - lileve Mar 3, 10:43
sure, except I'd be dead because I'd already revealed what they did -- nm - ceregon Mar 3, 10:39
One group's desires shouldn't come at the cost of 3 million lives. -- nm - JaxSean Mar 3, 10:37 6
- how many, then? where's the cutoff point? -- nm - znufrii, older, no wiser Mar 3, 10:37 5
  - zero. -- nm - JaxSean Mar 3, 10:58
  - Hitler. -- nm - Beryllium Mar 3, 10:39 3
    - that's at least 8 million -- nm - Alan More Mar 3, 10:40 2
      - no, I meant, hitler is the cutoff point. One "person" (as an abstract concept) is too high a price to pay. But hitler ... that price is a bit lower. -- nm - Beryllium Mar 3, 10:41 1
        
        ah, I see -- nm - Alan More Mar 3, 10:43
Sure. If you factor in likely negative repercussions of silence, it becomes far less attractive. - Dr.Vermin Mar 3, 10:36 1
- wow, you and znu are agreeing on more and more these days -- nm - Alan More Mar 3, 10:39
I would hold my counsel to see how things play out before revealing. - Loyola Mar 3, 10:36
based on my answer to part 1, I had already hinted at the truth in an obtuse way ... I would become more direct as the situation warranted. -- nm - Beryllium Mar 3, 10:34
yes. - znufrii, older, no wiser Mar 3, 10:33
not really, because I had already told earlier so this ? is superfluous -- nm - crash davis Mar 3, 10:32
Me too. -- nm - Jelly Mar 3, 10:32

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