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(crash on Trish's computer) spamlet, I'll argue that a Fielder's Choice is a different ending to an AB due to its descriptive nature

Posted by trish (aka trisha) May 19 '14, 11:26

as in "He reached first on a fielder's choice" is a way to describe the end of an AB versus "He reached first on a groundout" which leaves you saying "wtf/"

I realize SABR knows better but to me it is a seperate ending

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Listen, I won the damn contest. Stop trying to take this away from me -- nm - prayformojo May 19, 11:53 1
- (coTc) spamlet agreed with me and said you still win! -- nm - trish May 19, 11:59
a distinction without a difference really, from SABR's perspective - znufrii May 19, 11:33 10
- (coTc) but your IM is negated by the very mention of a sacrifice bunt -- nm - trish May 19, 11:35 9
  - not really, because in a sacrifice bunt the batter is not hitting with the intention of getting on base. -- nm - znufrii May 19, 11:41 8
    - (coTc) then sac fly should definitely count as well -- nm - trish May 19, 11:48 7
      - a sac fly is an accident of distance, not a function of the batter's intent. - znufrii May 19, 12:02 6
        
        (coTc) no, its not - the good contact hitters know dang well what they are doing when they choose to lift the ball in that situation -- nm - trish May 19, 12:07 5
        
        but the system needs to be able to score all hitters to equal standards, not just your "good contact hitter." -- nm - znufrii May 19, 12:24 4
        
        also you can argue that because the run does not score on the at bat, but on the live ball play after the at bat, it is irrelevant to the metric. -- nm - znufrii May 19, 12:33 1
        
        (coTc) under that distinction, nothing scores on an AB except a bases loaded walk, all come from live balls - trish May 19, 12:37
        
        (coTc) I'm going to drop this after this post, but that list of SABR's is stupid and I get anyone defending twisted around - trish May 19, 12:32 1
        
        ^"I can get anyone defending it" -- nm - trish May 19, 12:34
I missed FC. I'd say that definitely counts and would make 16. - spamlet May 19, 11:31
hey? let Trish know Meg & I meant to dial -- nm - JenBro May 19, 11:28 7
- Sfek/threadjack - to dial her when we were all together but it just didn't happen :( - JenBro May 19, 11:31 6
  - (coTc) I'll let her know. I'm sure she appreciates that -- nm - trish May 19, 11:36
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    - :) it's no wonder those two guys kept cruising you Saturday night - you are so animated and cute in your little shorts! -- nm - JenBro May 19, 11:38 3
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        I saw 4-5 guys with those same shorts in the airport last night. -- nm - Truman May 19, 12:13
        
        You wait - they'll be all the rage this Summer - you trendsetter!!! -- nm - JenBro May 19, 11:42

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