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In response to "(crash on Trish's computer) spamlet, I'll argue that a Fielder's Choice is a different ending to an AB due to its descriptive nature" by trish

a distinction without a difference really, from SABR's perspective

Posted by znufrii May 19 '14, 11:33

if you ground into an out, you ground into an out, it doesn't matter where the out is made, which is a function of whether or not there are baserunners present, instead of being a function of the at bat.

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(coTc) but your IM is negated by the very mention of a sacrifice bunt -- nm - trish May 19, 11:35 9
- not really, because in a sacrifice bunt the batter is not hitting with the intention of getting on base. -- nm - znufrii May 19, 11:41 8
  - (coTc) then sac fly should definitely count as well -- nm - trish May 19, 11:48 7
    - a sac fly is an accident of distance, not a function of the batter's intent. - znufrii May 19, 12:02 6
      - (coTc) no, its not - the good contact hitters know dang well what they are doing when they choose to lift the ball in that situation -- nm - trish May 19, 12:07 5
        
        but the system needs to be able to score all hitters to equal standards, not just your "good contact hitter." -- nm - znufrii May 19, 12:24 4
        
        also you can argue that because the run does not score on the at bat, but on the live ball play after the at bat, it is irrelevant to the metric. -- nm - znufrii May 19, 12:33 1
        
        (coTc) under that distinction, nothing scores on an AB except a bases loaded walk, all come from live balls - trish May 19, 12:37
        
        (coTc) I'm going to drop this after this post, but that list of SABR's is stupid and I get anyone defending twisted around - trish May 19, 12:32 1
        
        ^"I can get anyone defending it" -- nm - trish May 19, 12:34

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