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There are judgement calls in all sports. One ref sees something one way, another one a different way. K, I get that. I don't get

Posted by Jim (aka Jim) Jun 26 '14, 11:33

taking something that's exact and making it a potential judgement call. That's all.

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It's just not that big of a deal. -- nm - CQ Jun 26, 11:36 21
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- If it isn't, why is the concept defended so vociferously? -- nm - David Jun 26, 11:37 19
  - It's not being defended. It's just silly to see people bitch about it. Comical -- nm - CQ Jun 26, 11:41 13
    - There are legitimately 100 posts over the last five days in defense of it. So... -- nm - David Jun 26, 11:46 12
      - Just let it go. You're right, I'm wrong. -- nm - CQ Jun 26, 11:52
      - If I were to propose that the NFL go to touch rules, get five people to bitch about it with me and then post about it after every NFL game - Reagen Jun 26, 11:48 8
        
        There are championship winning head coaches trying to prevent plays from being run as quickly. - David Jun 26, 11:58 2
        
        I think there are very definitely things to fix and change about soccer. The clock is not one of them - Reagen Jun 26, 12:00 1
        
        I make this point because hockey and soccer are the most similar sports, stylistically. - David Jun 26, 12:03
        
        Isn't that what the NFL is doing? Well, with QBs and WRs anyway. -- nm - Jim Jun 26, 11:49 4
        
        who knows NFL is not really a big sport here and probably never will be either -- nm - Dándukini Jun 26, 11:51
        
        There's probably a case to be made about that at another time - Reagen Jun 26, 11:51 2
        
        If I and my friends don't like the way my wife is styling her hair, that doesn't make us right - Zorcàs Jun 26, 11:53 1
        
        The fuq? -- nm - Jim Jun 26, 11:57
      - Because there have been about 200 posts questioning in it. - Tyego97 Jun 26, 11:46 1
        
        As long as we agree people were defending it, contrary to the statement of the post in question.... -- nm - David Jun 26, 11:49
  - why change something that is not a problem really? -- nm - Dándukini Jun 26, 11:40
  - No, the inexact timing is not a big deal to soccer fans. - Reagen Jun 26, 11:39 3
    - it's really not....nm - x Jun 26, 11:53
    - it does - Dándukini Jun 26, 11:41
    - Yeah, if they went to an NHL-like clock-stopping model, the games would be unwatchably long. And boring. -- nm - Beryllium Jun 26, 11:40
Right? It's no different than wiping away the back line on a tennis court and letting the player decide those calls. - David Jun 26, 11:36 23
- What astounds me is your lack to realize it's not an effing problem. -- nm - CQ Jun 26, 11:39 22
  - I would ask that you step back for me and consider one simple statement. - David Jun 26, 11:44 9
    - I have no problem with the way the time is kept. I think the refs do a great job of deciding stoppage time. I just want to see a free flowing game. -- nm - CQ Jun 26, 11:50 1
      - This is precisely why I regard soccer and rugby above all other sports. -- nm - Zorcàs Jun 26, 11:51
    - Yes, because I'd rather be watching the play than the clock -- nm - Zorcàs Jun 26, 11:45 6
      - So, you believe that had there been a clock all of this time, you would have wanted it abolished? -- nm - David Jun 26, 11:51 1
        
        after seeing the way it worked before it, yes. -- nm - Zorcàs Jun 26, 11:54
      - For me, it's a lot easier to watch the play knowing that something as simple as keeping time is being handled precisely. *shrugs* -- nm - Jim Jun 26, 11:47 3
        
        The ref is doing it precisely using from his/her perspective. - Zorcàs Jun 26, 11:50 2
        
        So, there's no concern at all that the ref's perspective might be clouded? None? -- nm - Jim Jun 26, 11:58 1
        
        Maybe the strength and the beauty of the game is that the players agree to proceed on the presumption that it's not. -- nm - Max Jun 26, 12:01
  - So, you're sure that the Portugal game ended right when it should have? You have a way to show that? - Jim Jun 26, 11:40 11
    - Shown by when then ref blows the whistle. That's when it's supposed to end. -- nm - Max Jun 26, 11:45
    - I give up. Just don't watch then -- nm - CQ Jun 26, 11:44 1
      - So that would be a no? nm - Jim Jun 26, 11:44
    - he spoken like thoose who got the bad end of the deal - Dándukini Jun 26, 11:42 7
      - If you use a clock...there is NO viewpoint. THAT'S the point here. -- nm - Jim Jun 26, 11:43 6
        
        BUT the game was not played with an apparent stoppage time you do remember the game till right? - Dándukini Jun 26, 11:49 5
        
        Your example is a great one about the timekeeping flaws. For all we know, too much time was given and it altered the outcome of a World Cup match. -- nm - David Jun 26, 12:00
        
        I'll bang my head on this wall one more time...I don't care about what the Portuguese would have liked or what the Americans would have liked... - Jim Jun 26, 11:54 3
        
        you need to learn the rules better - Dándukini Jun 26, 11:58
        
        It's going to be up to someone's discretion regardless. -- nm - Reagen Jun 26, 11:55 1
        
        now the ref on the field ultimatley -- nm - Dándukini Jun 26, 11:59
exactness cost time and time waste is a problem in fottball - Dándukini Jun 26, 11:34 3
- You could have the exact same game at the exact same pace, but just know *exactly* how much time should be added. - Inigo Jun 26, 11:36 2
  - you would get a different flow in the game sometimes -- nm - Dándukini Jun 26, 11:47 1
    - I don't see how. The only change would be that added time would be more precise. - Inigo Jun 26, 11:58

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