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People are starting to see him for what he is rather than what he can be.

Posted by David (aka David) Jul 1 '14, 08:22

That's healthy for him.

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Part of it is impressive that he's been the chosen one for 5 years; and for the most part, he's lived up to star projections - Hunta Jul 1, 08:30 1
- I agree with your first paragraph but I don't care about fantasy baseball, just reality. - David Jul 1, 08:50
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- We know exactly what he is. He is a 21-year-old kid telling Matt Williams what his lineup would be. - David Jul 1, 08:28 26
  - Well, i'm not sure I'd really consider Matt Williams right all the time after he nailed harper for not hustling while he was hurt - Hunta Jul 1, 08:32 9
    - I'll take the judgment of a guy who has been in MLB since the 80s over one who has been in the majors since 2012 any day of the week. - David Jul 1, 08:41 8
      - I don't agree with Harper....but I also ain't going to say it's without merit. - Hunta Jul 1, 08:44 3
        
        It is and I said as much when it happened. The other aspect is that Williams was brought in to be hard on Harper and teach him how to be great. - David Jul 1, 08:48 2
        
        You can be tough on a player with freedom, but when you Kirk Gibson a guy who's hurt and actually taking it easy...that's just reinforcing that gulf. - Hunta Jul 1, 08:50 1
        
        That IM is a huge problem although I suspect it's not true. -- nm - David Jul 1, 08:53
      - while it is not ideal, he was asked his opinion, and he gave it. - groiny Jul 1, 08:42 3
        
        His opinion should be, "I am just a player. Whatever my manager wants is what I will do." - David Jul 1, 08:44 2
        
        if everyone answered that way, there would be no need for Sports reporting. nm -- nm - groiny Jul 1, 08:46 1
        
        wouldn't that be something. -- nm - Reagen Jul 1, 08:51
  - because that is what Bonds needed to be great. - groiny Jul 1, 08:29 15
    - If you want the kid to be Ty Cobb, Ricky Henderson or Barry Bonds, that's your call. -- nm - David Jul 1, 08:30 14
      - well, the only thing keeping him from being great is him running into walls and diving head first into bases. - groiny Jul 1, 08:31 11
        
        We'll see. Thus far, he's a 4 WAR player that people treat like an 8. - David Jul 1, 08:38 9
        
        he is everything that Heyward was supposed to be. - groiny Jul 1, 08:40 8
        
        Heyward is 4 WAR as well yet you have soured on him... -- nm - David Jul 1, 08:42 7
        
        Heyward's WAR is inflated heavily from his rookie year; 5 years and it's basically 35% of his career mark. - Hunta Jul 1, 08:48 2
        
        See below... -- (link) - David Jul 1, 08:49 1
        
        His WAR this year, (while top 5) is broken down this way (Off. 1.0 - Def. 2.3 - Other .4) - Hunta Jul 1, 08:57
        
        he underperformed last year, he is underperforming this year. - groiny Jul 1, 08:43 3
        
        We -just- had the discussion yesterday of how he is top 5 in WAR. - David Jul 1, 08:47 2
        
        his attitude does not have any impact whatsoever on his on field play. - groiny Jul 1, 08:51 1
        
        It matters in helping your team win or lose. Teams are not as loose when they play with assholes. - David Jul 1, 08:52
        
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        And yet... -- nm - David Jul 1, 08:31

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People are starting to see him for what he is rather than what he can be.

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