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In response to "i think compassion should be directed towards people and not religious dogma -- nm" by danedukenuuk

In his view the twins WERE people. -- nm

Posted by Ender (aka Ender) Mar 11 '09, 06:56

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and how do his actions here benefit them? -- nm - znufrii Mar 11, 07:01 27
- the only benefit i can see is that more people leave that union of dogmatic stupidity - danedukenuuk Mar 11, 07:07
- How do a judge's actions benefit a murder victim? -- nm - Ender Mar 11, 07:04 25
  - They don't. And it won't surprise you at all to hear that I feel our justice system is unnecessarily retributive. - znufrii Mar 11, 07:07 17
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      - nobody cares wht law the church has for the color scheeme INSIDE their own churches - danedukenuuk Mar 11, 07:12 3
        
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        "Manipulating" people into doing the moral thing is kind of the whole point. -- nm - Ender Mar 11, 07:13 1
        
        well then "manipulate" the lawmakers to change the law and NOT the 9 year old who is pregnant and probably going to die -- nm - danedukenuuk Mar 11, 07:18
      - There's something wrong when I, the uber-Protestant, find myself defending the Catholic Church. -- nm - Ender Mar 11, 07:10 5
        
        an attack on the curch is also an attack on religion (nomatter what color that religion IS) - danedukenuuk Mar 11, 07:13 3
        
        Well, at least you're taking the reasonable "abolish all religion because SOME religious people do things I don't like" approach. -- nm - Ender Mar 11, 07:17 2
        
        the most fair thing is to remove religion or you will have to have some sort of "counsil" to judge each if they are dogmatic or not - danedukenuuk Mar 11, 07:20 1
        
        Or you could just say "you're free to believe whatever you want so long as you're willing to accept the consequences if you violate civil law" - Ender Mar 11, 07:25
        
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      - did I say that it didn't? -- nm - znufrii Mar 11, 07:10 5
        
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        by claiming that their laws are inspired by God, they are precisely *not* "taking responsibility" for it, - znufrii Mar 11, 07:16 3
        
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        I get the point that you're making, that civil jurisprudence has historically taken its cues from canon and religious law. - znufrii Mar 11, 07:24 1
        
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    - After the fact nothing can help either a murder victim or a dead fetus. In both situations it's about a combination of punishment and providing a deterrent. - Ender Mar 11, 07:09 5
      - providing a deterrent - danedukenuuk Mar 11, 07:15
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        Personally I think they all ought to join a nice Protestant denomination that doesn't kick people out for not being perfect... - Ender Mar 11, 07:19 2
        
        I agree with Ender...yikes! -- nm - The Calico Cat Coalition Mar 11, 07:23
        
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but the 9 year old was expendable -- nm - The Calico Cat Coalition Mar 11, 06:57

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