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In response to "He's a news blogger. He wrote a post saying RW didn't die from a disease, he died by choice. let your imagination run from there. -- nm" by loosi at home

As sad or horrible as it may sound...if it is suicide, is that not a choice? -- nm

Posted by Jim (aka Jim) Aug 12 '14, 10:41

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You know how guys on steroids make a lot of terrible decisions? Other imbalances in the brain cause depression and you make other dumb choices. -- nm - zork Aug 12, 10:46 13
- Of course...but even in your own post you used "decisions" and "choices". - Jim Aug 12, 10:48 12
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    - Having just read the entire blog post...dude makes a good point or two in there. nm -- nm - Jim Aug 12, 10:56 9
      - He might if he didn't completely dismiss mental illness as a cause. -- nm - Inigo Aug 12, 11:01
      - I read it too. I started to get it more when he said he "coudln't comprehend" the choice to commit suicide. That was obvious. - loosi at home Aug 12, 10:59 5
        
        The point he made, that I liked, was that depression (as a disease) is not fatal. - Jim Aug 12, 11:02 4
        
        It *can* be fatal, though. There are different degrees of depression. - Kim Pine Aug 12, 11:15 2
        
        In Walsh's case, he had/has depression that he can control. - Inigo Aug 12, 11:23 1
        
        the fact that he says straight up he cant' comprehend it backs you up. -- nm - loosi at home Aug 12, 11:24
        
        this is, as landbeck said, a very complex thing that he is trying to reduce to a simple choice. -- nm - loosi at home Aug 12, 11:03
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        lol -- nm - Jim Aug 12, 11:00
  - basically, there is a puppet master behind the scenes pulling the strings. Those decisions are not their own. -- nm - zork Aug 12, 10:53
it's not an either/or situation. -- nm - znufrii Aug 12, 10:46
It's an inflammatory and incorrect reduction of a complex issue to hostile terms. Straight middle school fighting words. -- nm - landbeck Aug 12, 10:44 1
- This, exactly. -- nm - loosi at home Aug 12, 10:53
It is and it isn't, but it's also not a productive line of conversation. -- nm - Reagen Aug 12, 10:42 6
- I don't know...maybe I'm just seeing shit differently right now, but I don't see what's to be outraged about in this particular case. *shrugs* -- nm - Jim Aug 12, 10:44 5
  - It's basically just telling depressed people to "buck up, be stronger", which is not how it works at all - Reagen Aug 12, 10:47 4
    - That's actually not what he was saying at all. -- nm - Jim Aug 12, 10:57
    - also telling them, You're an asshole, you willingly inflicted pain on your loved ones. - loosi at home Aug 12, 10:54
    - This is long but give a good look into how someone is thinking during some depressions -- (link) - zork Aug 12, 10:52
    - Right. "Oh, no. I'm a coward for wanting to commit suicide. That makes it even worse." -- nm - Inigo Aug 12, 10:50

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