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In response to "I read something this morning that said there might actually be a 'ring' of hackers who've been doing this for awhile" by decline

the list of celebs is an impressive bunch.

Posted by groiny (aka groiny) Sep 2 '14, 08:09

although some are questionable.

it amazes me that people still cell phone these photos, given all the shit happening with hacking.

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The hackers are wrong. But, really, if you take a nude photo and expect it to stay private in this day and age, your expectations are way out of line - TWuG Sep 2, 08:12 67
- It's easy for guys to say that when they know they'll never get targetted for this kind of thing. -- nm - Reagen Sep 2, 08:21 5
  - It blows my mind that people would have nudes on their phone. (ok, I just read these photos weren't on the phones. really?) - loosi in the sky with diamonds Sep 2, 08:33 1
    - well, they started out on their phones. nm -- nm - groiny Sep 2, 08:34
  - I have personal experience with this kind of thing with a loved one who was exploited in such a way. - TWuG Sep 2, 08:25
  - I mean, Verlander is a hugely famous athlete yet his participation in this is virtually an afterthought. - David Sep 2, 08:22 1
    - he is unattractive. Now if Becks junk got leaked - than that might have caused more of an uproar - Epiphany Sep 2, 08:23
- I agree. Its not smart and I think the hackers should be prosecuted. I wonder if Apple is going to get sued -- nm - Epiphany Sep 2, 08:21 1
  - yeah, the sue Apple story will be an interesting one for sure if someone goes for the gold -- nm - Beaker Sep 2, 08:22
- "If you bank on-line, expect to have your money stolen. It's not fair, it's just reality." -- nm - ty97 Sep 2, 08:16 26
  - it is a big jump to compare money in a bank to naked pics on a phone or server -- nm - Beaker Sep 2, 08:21 19
    - the pics weren't on their phones. -- nm - Andie Sep 2, 08:22 18
      - This is why I won't use the password keeper in the cloud. -- nm - pmb Sep 2, 08:37
      - until this happened, I had no idea photos from a phone went to the cloud. - Epiphany Sep 2, 08:24 16
        
        Really? At least on Android, you set up what you want to go there. Music, photo, video, documents, texts. -- nm - Spawn Sep 2, 08:28
        
        They don't automatically. It depends on your service and which boxes you check at setup. -- nm - David Sep 2, 08:25 1
        
        right, nothing on my iPhone is synced through the cloud. nm -- nm - groiny Sep 2, 08:26
        
        right? -- nm - Andie Sep 2, 08:25 12
        
        and, when my last phone died, and i lost everything *because* i didn't have auto-backup, everyone here was like 'why don't you have it - Andie Sep 2, 08:27 11
        
        You can manage the cloud. If you ever take something like that go in and remove it. -- nm - Spawn Sep 2, 08:29 10
        
        sure, but how many people know that? and, a few people said those pictures were old, did they know that 5 phones ago? -- nm - Andie Sep 2, 08:30 9
        
        if you're going to use a tool, doesn't it behoove you to learn how to use it in the most responsible manner? -- nm - znufrii Sep 2, 08:31 8
        
        those settings change. - Mel Profit Sep 2, 08:37
        
        Don't blame the user. A lot of phones are ridiculous. -- nm - loosi in the sky with diamonds Sep 2, 08:33 1
        
        If theya re taking nude photos, they sure as hell should have looked into it. -- nm - Spawn Sep 2, 08:40
        
        oh, i guess i am a realist who understands that not every person understands in technical detail everything their phone does. -- nm - Andie Sep 2, 08:32 4
        
        That sounds like handing off responsibility. "I was ignorant, so I'm not at fault." - TWuG Sep 2, 08:35 3
        
        It's not as though companies providing these services try to make it simple though. -- nm - Roger More Sep 2, 08:39 2
        
        I was in mine last night. It is ultra simple. -- nm - Spawn Sep 2, 08:41 1
        
        But, Facebook. -- nm - Roger More Sep 2, 08:44
  - Money is fungible and theft from a bank is insured against. You'll get your money back. Once a nude pic is released, it's out there forever. - TWuG Sep 2, 08:20
  - that is miles and miles apart. There are security features in place for banks. - groiny Sep 2, 08:18 4
    - they were photos hacked off a secure cloud server, weren't they? where do you think your banking info is? -- nm - Andie Sep 2, 08:18 3
      - Apparently not THAT secure... -- nm - Ender Sep 2, 08:26
      - banks have fraud prevention departments in place to deal with leaks / hacks. - groiny Sep 2, 08:21 1
        
        problem is I expect many people - including a bunch of those celebs - don't realize their photos are out there on the cloud. - decline Sep 2, 08:24
- It's a broader issue about the internet privacy combined with lax laws on the subject. -- nm - David Sep 2, 08:15 1
  - what laws? -- nm - colin Sep 2, 08:16
- my wife said the same thing.. she said they should just say "oh well, stupid me" and move on. -- nm - colin Sep 2, 08:14 8
  - if someone broke into your house and stole nude photos of her and posted them on, say, FB, would she feel the same? - Andie Sep 2, 08:18 6
    - that's not the same thing... if you reasonably secure that type of thing (physical copy, in your home), you should have no expectation of a - colin Sep 2, 08:24 5
      - these were photos that these people *deleted* and thought were gone. -- nm - Andie Sep 2, 08:24 4
        
        see above... those photos were probably collected quite some time ago when they were on the cloud. - colin Sep 2, 08:26 3
        
        i just think there are a lot of people acting like they should just 'get over it', when if it happened to someone you love would be freaking out. -- nm - Andie Sep 2, 08:28 2
        
        i think that freaking out in public doesn't help the situation. - colin Sep 2, 08:35 1
        
        i actually haven't seen a freak out, i've seen anger. -- nm - Andie Sep 2, 08:38
  - well, they do not really have much of a choice at this point. nm -- nm - groiny Sep 2, 08:17
- that feels like blaming the victim... -- nm - Andie Sep 2, 08:13 19
  - It's the same as any other precaution you take... don't leave your car running while you run into buy a cup of coffee. Don't make your passwords 1234. - Cuzzin Todd Sep 2, 08:21 8
    - Don't wear a short skirt. Don't get drunk. - ty97 Sep 2, 08:21 7
      - I should've timed it on how long that argument took to come up. -- nm - Cuzzin Todd Sep 2, 08:24
      - I disagree. its not the same. -- nm - Epiphany Sep 2, 08:23 5
        
        The philosophy is equivalent. - ty97 Sep 2, 08:26 4
        
        we can respectfully disagree -- nm - Epiphany Sep 2, 08:37
        
        Reductio ad absurdum. -- nm - Cuzzin Todd Sep 2, 08:26 2
        
        Avada Kedavra -- nm - David Sep 2, 08:35 1
        
        avocado salad. -- nm - colin Sep 2, 08:36
  - It's not blaming them, it's telling them the lay of the land. - TWuG Sep 2, 08:18 4
    - "Accept that if you take nude photos, they will get published online" is a pretty lousy philosophy. - David Sep 2, 08:21 3
      - It's an unpleasant truth. From a practical standpoint, that has to be the approach because it is the likeliest outcome. - TWuG Sep 2, 08:27 2
        
        yup, if you want nudes use a polaroid -- nm - Beaker Sep 2, 08:28 1
        
        Or charcoal sketches! -- nm - Cuzzin Todd Sep 2, 08:29
  - it is not. You just have to me a bit smarter about what you put out there. - groiny Sep 2, 08:16 4
    - These photos weren't "put out there". The current belief is that the users had checked the box... - David Sep 2, 08:19 2
      - Welcome to the digital age. There is no barrier between 1 copy of something and a billion copies of something. - TWuG Sep 2, 08:23
      - nothing is ever deleted off the internet. nm -- nm - groiny Sep 2, 08:22
    - I leaked mine and Kate's cause I like getting high fives from people -- nm - Justin Verlander Sep 2, 08:18
- It's like getting into the pool and hoping no one has peed in it. Good luck. -- nm - Beaker Sep 2, 08:13

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the list of celebs is an impressive bunch.

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