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maybe, it is because all you fuckers put way, way too much thought into the movies you watch????

Posted by groiny (aka groiny) Sep 2 '14, 09:39

jeebus

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please do not poke the intellectual bears -- nm - Capstern Sep 2, 09:58
Some people don't need a plot. I do. -- nm - David Sep 2, 09:44 61
- and IIRC, you also disliked the original Star Wars as well? -- nm - groiny Sep 2, 10:12 9
  - I don't dislike the first three Star Wars films. I'm just apathetic to them. - David Sep 2, 10:21 8
    - see, and this is mindblowing due to the success of the film, even 30+ years later. nm -- nm - groiny Sep 2, 10:24 7
      - Twilight and Transformers are similarly successful. Popularity is more often random than indicative of underlying quality. - David Sep 2, 10:26 6
        
        At least ST:TMP was actual legit science fiction. SW is just an opera that happens to be set in space. With space wizards. -- nm - Beryllium Sep 2, 10:28
        
        I did not like any of the original Star Trek movies, but I loved the Chris Pine one. - groiny Sep 2, 10:28 4
        
        Wrath of Khan through Voyage Home is fairly spectacular storytelling. - David Sep 2, 10:30 1
        
        well, at least you have that going for you. - groiny Sep 2, 10:32
        
        The Chris Pine one is a Star Trek movie in name only -- nm - amoxy Sep 2, 10:30 1
        
        which may be while I like it more than the Shatner crap. nm -- nm - groiny Sep 2, 10:31
- Slight tangent - what rating did you give Avengers? And what are the differentiators between that and GotG? -- nm - Roger More Sep 2, 10:07 4
  - The Avengers was in my top 10 for that year. -- nm - David Sep 2, 10:24 3
    - And what sets it apart? Because while I haven't seen GotG, they basically seem like the same movie except one is in space. -- nm - Roger More Sep 2, 10:31 2
      - You're being silly and I'm not taking the bait. - David Sep 2, 10:33 1
        
        This was actually a serious question. But I'll drop it. -- nm - Roger More Sep 2, 10:48
- For sure. Movies like The Shawshank Redemption and Gravity are perfect examples of plot-driven masterpieces. -- nm - Shaun Sep 2, 09:54 24
  - I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, but I would regard Shawshank's strength as characterization, and Gravity's as plot. -- nm - Reagen Sep 2, 10:00 23
    - Similarly, I'd say GotG's strengths are characterization, acting and dialogue. -- nm - Inigo Sep 2, 10:04 4
      - And musical choice. And visuals. And pacing. -- nm - Beryllium Sep 2, 10:09 3
        
        and talking trees and raccoons. nm -- nm - groiny Sep 2, 10:10 2
        
        Those should be their own oscar categories, really. Best Raccoon in a Motion Picture. -- nm - Beryllium Sep 2, 10:10 1
        
        ...Who Shoots Guns. -- nm - Shaun Sep 2, 10:18
    - Gravity's plot was 'Hey lady. You need to go over there or you will die. Git er done.' -- nm - Shaun Sep 2, 10:02 12
      - in a word: "Survive." -- nm - Beryllium Sep 2, 10:05 11
        
        in more words: find the willingness to live. -- nm - David Sep 2, 10:29 7
        
        "Turning 40 isn't the end of the world." -- nm - Max Sep 2, 10:33
        
        so, Open Water in space. nm -- nm - groiny Sep 2, 10:30 5
        
        Open Water has a solid plot. - Reagen Sep 2, 10:33 1
        
        oh make no mistake, I really think they are the same movie, with different actors. nm -- nm - groiny Sep 2, 10:34
        
        With *way* fewer sharks. -- nm - Shaun Sep 2, 10:30 2
        
        the asteroids and space garbage are the sharks. nm -- nm - groiny Sep 2, 10:32 1
        
        Ahhhhhhhhh, I feel you. -- nm - Shaun Sep 2, 10:33
        
        That's a theme, not a plot. - Reagen Sep 2, 10:09
        
        Gravity was a nice movie, that was really geared towards going ooh and aah on the big screen. - groiny Sep 2, 10:06 1
        
        Rather watch The Right Stuff again -- nm - Capstern Sep 2, 10:14
    - I haven't seen Gravity, but couldn't its plot be summed up in one word? (And I don't think that's a bad thing) -- nm - Beryllium Sep 2, 10:02 3
      - No - con_carne Sep 2, 10:36
      - and I would also say that it borders on being unbelieveable as well. - groiny Sep 2, 10:03 1
        
        You have to ask yourself, "Is it possible?" And the answer is yes, yes it's possible. -- nm - Giorgio Tsoukalos Sep 2, 10:06
    - I could make an argument that Gravity's plot was simplistic and shallow -- nm - oblique Sep 2, 10:01
- boy you must hate Raiders of the Lost Ark. -- nm - Remlik Sep 2, 09:53
- 80 year old koreans. -- nm - Beryllium Sep 2, 09:49
- it had a plot, just not one up to your high standards. nm -- nm - groiny Sep 2, 09:45 18
  - I can't think of a Marvel movie with a good plot. - Inigo Sep 2, 09:49 9
    - much like Dirty Dozen or Raiders, they are to silly as well with dumb plots. -- nm - Remlik Sep 2, 09:58
    - Spidey 2 would be the gold standard in this regard. -- nm - Reagen Sep 2, 09:58 4
      - I could see that, but I meant the Marvel Cinematic Universe. - Inigo Sep 2, 10:01 3
        
        What about Iron Man? -- nm - Beryllium Sep 2, 10:05 2
        
        I think it was similar to GotG. (Iron Man spoils) - Inigo Sep 2, 10:11 1
        
        spoils - Beryllium Sep 2, 10:12
    - it is people with superpowers, it is not Shakespeare. nm -- nm - groiny Sep 2, 09:50 2
      - There are aliens too dude! -- nm - Shaun Sep 2, 09:55 1
        
        So you're saying that we would enjoy these Marvel movies better in their original klingon? -- nm - Beryllium Sep 2, 09:56
  - The plot is basically the same as the scene in Up where all the dogs chase the tennis ball. -- nm - David Sep 2, 09:47 7
    - David, you have got me officially baffled. I now can not tell when you are kidding or not -- nm - amoxy Sep 2, 09:49 5
      - Not a joke at all. - David Sep 2, 09:50 4
        
        the ONLY thing that I will give you on GotG that I will question (spoils) - groiny Sep 2, 09:56 3
        
        I don't know if we talked about it or not but that drove me nuts. -- nm - David Sep 2, 10:20 2
        
        It made no sense, for sure. (spoils) - Beryllium Sep 2, 10:25
        
        I am not sure, but I can surely give you that opinion. - groiny Sep 2, 10:23
    - now you are just being silly. nm -- nm - groiny Sep 2, 09:48
... I highly doubt that's what's keeping Jim away. -- nm - Beryllium Sep 2, 09:42
Dude, this is a Movies Board! - Spawn Sep 2, 09:40 40
- GotG was the most "fun" I have had at a movie in a long, long time. - groiny Sep 2, 09:43 39
  - (GotG spoilers) - Capstern Sep 2, 10:01 19
    - um, dude? - groiny Sep 2, 10:01 18
      - A month after release ...really? -- nm - Capstern Sep 2, 10:17 12
        
        yeah. nm -- nm - groiny Sep 2, 10:17 11
        
        Noted. What is the acceptable time table on things like that these days? - Capstern Sep 2, 10:20 10
        
        If you want to use common courtesy, forever. It doesn't hurt to use the spoiler subject. -- nm - Shaun Sep 2, 10:26
        
        The fact that I saw the movie the day before release was an astounding anomaly. Normally I have to wait for things to come out on Netflix Canada, so.. - Beryllium Sep 2, 10:23 4
        
        Hmmm so ok to say the dude escapes the prison in (spoiler) - Capstern Sep 2, 10:25 3
        
        Escape Plan isn't even worth talking about, let alone spoiling. LOL - Beryllium Sep 2, 10:27 2
        
        was trying to be funny....(spoiler) - Capstern Sep 2, 10:30 1
        
        no trying about it, that was funny. :) -- nm - Beryllium Sep 2, 10:30
        
        I would say not everyone can get out to the theater to see something they want. - groiny Sep 2, 10:21 3
        
        Good to know. And honestly saw that one as pretty lame (spoilers) as quality goes - Capstern Sep 2, 10:24 2
        
        (spoils) - Beryllium Sep 2, 10:26 1
        
        (spolier) - Capstern Sep 2, 10:28
      - fixed. -- nm - Beryllium Sep 2, 10:02 4
        
        nice work. nm -- nm - groiny Sep 2, 10:03 3
        
        It's only a band-aid fix. He'll post again. -- nm - Qale Sep 2, 10:07 2
        
        girl, you so catty! -- nm - Beryllium Sep 2, 10:08 1
        
        you spelled that last word wrong -- nm - Capstern Sep 2, 10:17
  - It does sometimes seem like people watch movies just looking for things to tear apart -- nm - con_carne Sep 2, 09:59 1
    - for sure, this is a part of it as well. nm -- nm - groiny Sep 2, 10:01
  - Respectfully, the plot holes or weak villain are things that do detract from films - Will Hunting Sep 2, 09:51 2
    - I do see what you're saying, perhaps moreso than groiny, but I definitely 100% got my money's worth out of GotG. :-) -- nm - Beryllium Sep 2, 09:54
    - not once had I even thought about who was playing the villan in the movie. - groiny Sep 2, 09:53
  - Haven't seen it or Avengers. Just doesn't interest me -- nm - CQ Sep 2, 09:47
  - There are all kinds of people, with all kinds of opinions, here. I'm on your side on GotG, though. Super fun movie. - Beryllium Sep 2, 09:45
  - Thus the Michael Bay comparison... -- nm - David Sep 2, 09:45 11
    - And sometimes people just like to escape and watch stuff blow up - especially at $4.25 for a matinee -- nm - Capstern Sep 2, 10:02 1
      - Speak for yourself. -- nm - David Sep 2, 10:17
    - I think that's an unfair comparison. The closest GotG-Bay comparison would be Armageddon, and GotG is lightyears better than that. -- nm - Beryllium Sep 2, 09:48 6
      - You know that Bay directed Armageddon, right? -- nm - David Sep 2, 09:49 4
        
        ... you know that I know that, right? and that's what I was comparing? -- nm - Beryllium Sep 2, 09:51 2
        
        I honestly wasn't sure. -- nm - David Sep 2, 09:51 1
        
        The film in Bay's directorial career that most closely resembles GotG in theme and substance is, in my opinion, Armageddon. And GotG is superior. -- nm - Beryllium Sep 2, 09:52
        
        that is kind of his point. nm -- nm - groiny Sep 2, 09:50
      - (And I'm sure people know I like Armageddon) -- nm - Beryllium Sep 2, 09:48
    - well, he keeps getting jobs, so he must be doing something right too. nm -- nm - groiny Sep 2, 09:47 1
      - He's the master of commercial cinema. -- nm - David Sep 2, 09:48

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