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In response to "maybe, it is because all you fuckers put way, way too much thought into the movies you watch????" by groiny

Some people don't need a plot. I do. -- nm

Posted by David (aka David) Sep 2 '14, 09:44

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and IIRC, you also disliked the original Star Wars as well? -- nm - groiny Sep 2, 10:12 9
- I don't dislike the first three Star Wars films. I'm just apathetic to them. - David Sep 2, 10:21 8
  - see, and this is mindblowing due to the success of the film, even 30+ years later. nm -- nm - groiny Sep 2, 10:24 7
    - Twilight and Transformers are similarly successful. Popularity is more often random than indicative of underlying quality. - David Sep 2, 10:26 6
      - At least ST:TMP was actual legit science fiction. SW is just an opera that happens to be set in space. With space wizards. -- nm - Beryllium Sep 2, 10:28
      - I did not like any of the original Star Trek movies, but I loved the Chris Pine one. - groiny Sep 2, 10:28 4
        
        Wrath of Khan through Voyage Home is fairly spectacular storytelling. - David Sep 2, 10:30 1
        
        well, at least you have that going for you. - groiny Sep 2, 10:32
        
        The Chris Pine one is a Star Trek movie in name only -- nm - amoxy Sep 2, 10:30 1
        
        which may be while I like it more than the Shatner crap. nm -- nm - groiny Sep 2, 10:31
Slight tangent - what rating did you give Avengers? And what are the differentiators between that and GotG? -- nm - Roger More Sep 2, 10:07 4
- The Avengers was in my top 10 for that year. -- nm - David Sep 2, 10:24 3
  - And what sets it apart? Because while I haven't seen GotG, they basically seem like the same movie except one is in space. -- nm - Roger More Sep 2, 10:31 2
    - You're being silly and I'm not taking the bait. - David Sep 2, 10:33 1
      - This was actually a serious question. But I'll drop it. -- nm - Roger More Sep 2, 10:48
For sure. Movies like The Shawshank Redemption and Gravity are perfect examples of plot-driven masterpieces. -- nm - Shaun Sep 2, 09:54 24
- I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, but I would regard Shawshank's strength as characterization, and Gravity's as plot. -- nm - Reagen Sep 2, 10:00 23
  - Similarly, I'd say GotG's strengths are characterization, acting and dialogue. -- nm - Inigo Sep 2, 10:04 4
    - And musical choice. And visuals. And pacing. -- nm - Beryllium Sep 2, 10:09 3
      - and talking trees and raccoons. nm -- nm - groiny Sep 2, 10:10 2
        
        Those should be their own oscar categories, really. Best Raccoon in a Motion Picture. -- nm - Beryllium Sep 2, 10:10 1
        
        ...Who Shoots Guns. -- nm - Shaun Sep 2, 10:18
  - Gravity's plot was 'Hey lady. You need to go over there or you will die. Git er done.' -- nm - Shaun Sep 2, 10:02 12
    - in a word: "Survive." -- nm - Beryllium Sep 2, 10:05 11
      - in more words: find the willingness to live. -- nm - David Sep 2, 10:29 7
        
        "Turning 40 isn't the end of the world." -- nm - Max Sep 2, 10:33
        
        so, Open Water in space. nm -- nm - groiny Sep 2, 10:30 5
        
        Open Water has a solid plot. - Reagen Sep 2, 10:33 1
        
        oh make no mistake, I really think they are the same movie, with different actors. nm -- nm - groiny Sep 2, 10:34
        
        With *way* fewer sharks. -- nm - Shaun Sep 2, 10:30 2
        
        the asteroids and space garbage are the sharks. nm -- nm - groiny Sep 2, 10:32 1
        
        Ahhhhhhhhh, I feel you. -- nm - Shaun Sep 2, 10:33
      - That's a theme, not a plot. - Reagen Sep 2, 10:09
      - Gravity was a nice movie, that was really geared towards going ooh and aah on the big screen. - groiny Sep 2, 10:06 1
        
        Rather watch The Right Stuff again -- nm - Capstern Sep 2, 10:14
  - I haven't seen Gravity, but couldn't its plot be summed up in one word? (And I don't think that's a bad thing) -- nm - Beryllium Sep 2, 10:02 3
    - No - con_carne Sep 2, 10:36
    - and I would also say that it borders on being unbelieveable as well. - groiny Sep 2, 10:03 1
      - You have to ask yourself, "Is it possible?" And the answer is yes, yes it's possible. -- nm - Giorgio Tsoukalos Sep 2, 10:06
  - I could make an argument that Gravity's plot was simplistic and shallow -- nm - oblique Sep 2, 10:01
boy you must hate Raiders of the Lost Ark. -- nm - Remlik Sep 2, 09:53
80 year old koreans. -- nm - Beryllium Sep 2, 09:49
it had a plot, just not one up to your high standards. nm -- nm - groiny Sep 2, 09:45 18
- I can't think of a Marvel movie with a good plot. - Inigo Sep 2, 09:49 9
  - much like Dirty Dozen or Raiders, they are to silly as well with dumb plots. -- nm - Remlik Sep 2, 09:58
  - Spidey 2 would be the gold standard in this regard. -- nm - Reagen Sep 2, 09:58 4
    - I could see that, but I meant the Marvel Cinematic Universe. - Inigo Sep 2, 10:01 3
      - What about Iron Man? -- nm - Beryllium Sep 2, 10:05 2
        
        I think it was similar to GotG. (Iron Man spoils) - Inigo Sep 2, 10:11 1
        
        spoils - Beryllium Sep 2, 10:12
  - it is people with superpowers, it is not Shakespeare. nm -- nm - groiny Sep 2, 09:50 2
    - There are aliens too dude! -- nm - Shaun Sep 2, 09:55 1
      - So you're saying that we would enjoy these Marvel movies better in their original klingon? -- nm - Beryllium Sep 2, 09:56
- The plot is basically the same as the scene in Up where all the dogs chase the tennis ball. -- nm - David Sep 2, 09:47 7
  - David, you have got me officially baffled. I now can not tell when you are kidding or not -- nm - amoxy Sep 2, 09:49 5
    - Not a joke at all. - David Sep 2, 09:50 4
      - the ONLY thing that I will give you on GotG that I will question (spoils) - groiny Sep 2, 09:56 3
        
        I don't know if we talked about it or not but that drove me nuts. -- nm - David Sep 2, 10:20 2
        
        It made no sense, for sure. (spoils) - Beryllium Sep 2, 10:25
        
        I am not sure, but I can surely give you that opinion. - groiny Sep 2, 10:23
  - now you are just being silly. nm -- nm - groiny Sep 2, 09:48

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