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I only know Jim Cramer as a cartoon from the Bear Stearns incident and the King Of The Hing episode.

Posted by Name Withheld By Request (aka BlueKopo) Mar 13 '09, 07:45

I thought Stewart came across as a dick last night. He doesn't get to hide behind (yes, hide behind) the "We're just a comedy show," and then turn around a filet a guest like he did last night.

I have no doubt that Jim Cramer is a blowhard and may have deserved it, however most of the "interview" was Stewart being on a self-righteous crusade, never giving Cramer an opportunity to respond between shots.

If Jon wants to be the hardball guy, that's fine. Someone made the point last night that the media is lousy in that it falls to the comedy show guy to asks the tough questions, however Jon and the show show a real inconsistency in picking their targets for such questioning and anger.

I know I was staying up to watch and when it was over, I'm not sure I could say I was entertained. I felt uncomfortable for Cramer and that surely couldn't be Stewart's goal.

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He was building up to that for quite a while. Would have been a let down if he didn't let Kramer have it. -- nm - con_carne Mar 13, 08:22
Maybe Cramer *deserves* to be chastened. -- nm - Reagen Mar 13, 08:19 8
- Maybe he does, but I would argue that Stewart is the wrong guy to go after him, even if other more appropriate platforms will not. - Name Withheld By Request Mar 13, 08:31 4
  - That's pretty much why Daily Show and Colbert exist. - Cuzzin Todd Mar 13, 08:33 2
    - Except TDS uses the "We're just a comedy show," as their defence against criticism. - Name Withheld By Request Mar 13, 08:38
    - ... and defending them as a comedy show is one of their funnier jokes -- nm - Beryllium Mar 13, 08:34
  - Couldn't disagree more. Their "hard" news helps put the satire they do in context -- nm - con_carne Mar 13, 08:33
- it must be said...hyde was right. -- nm - Mel Profit Mar 13, 08:26 2
  - I'll make the not-original-at-this-point observation that he had balls to go on the show, but he brought this *all* on himself. - Reagen Mar 13, 08:31 1
    - agreed. -- nm - Mel Profit Mar 13, 08:33
Even Jon said it wasn't right for Cramer to take the blame for the entire financial reporting business. He was just the only one with the balls to - not2fast Mar 13, 07:58 8
- I'm also sure it will help Cramer's show get some new audience, it was a calculated risk but it could payout in the end if he can get some more - Gwaahjo Mar 13, 08:02
- And his reward for being the one to answer for that was a pummeling. - Name Withheld By Request Mar 13, 08:01
- I liked Stewart's point that... - Mel Profit Mar 13, 08:00 5
  - I haven't watched any of the interview yet, but I wonder if he mentioned that paradigm being not unique to the financial reporting industry - znufrii Mar 13, 08:10 2
    - I'm sure he said "paradigm" and "endemic", just for you, buddy. -- nm - TFox Mar 13, 08:33
    - (a point which Glenn Greenwald makes in his column today.) -- nm - znufrii Mar 13, 08:26
  - Yes, that was fair because it was directed broader than Cramer. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Mar 13, 08:02 1
    - which Stewart pointed out. -- nm - Mel Profit Mar 13, 08:03
Normally they just satirize or make fun of things they disagree with...this clearly, got under his skin however. - Mel Profit Mar 13, 07:56 10
- I think Stewart was caught off guard when Cramer got all pissy last week over the CNBC skewering -- nm - The Calico Cat Coaliton Mar 13, 07:59
- Sounds like when he went after Tucker Carlson (or whatever that dude's name is). -- nm - TFox Mar 13, 07:57 8
  - One of the more brilliant moments in television history, that. -- nm - znufrii Mar 13, 08:00
  - Yep. Carlson and Begala. Basically, if it falls to Stewart to break the news then he gets pissed that the news guys dropped the ball. Rightly so. -- nm - TWuG Mar 13, 07:58 6
    - I find it interesting that CNN dropped that show shortly after Stewart's appearance - The Calico Cat Coaliton Mar 13, 08:04 5
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        No, Dobbs was already on air spewing hate -- nm - The Calico Cat Coaliton Mar 13, 08:23 2
        
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        Not as bad yet...it was the immigration debate that sent him over the edge. -- nm - The Calico Cat Coaliton Mar 13, 08:37
      - I read somewhere that the president of CNN at the time even admitted that Stewart's appearance was one of the nails in the coffin. -- nm - znufrii Mar 13, 08:07
I'd like to see the unedited interview of the Stewart/Cramer thing.... -- nm - Remlik Mar 13, 07:55 1
- NMBL Only because I noticed it today while I was looking for something else -- (link) - con_carne Mar 13, 07:57
He nailed a hypocrite. That's what they do. Just because it wasn't "ha-ha funny" doesn't mean it didn't succeed. - TWuG Mar 13, 07:48 7
- Except Stewart has hypocrites and false prophets on his show at least once a week and he certainly doesn't go anywhere close to as hard. - Name Withheld By Request Mar 13, 07:51 6
  - Not as much as the shilling of investments that they know nothing about. -- nm - TaurusII Mar 13, 08:32
  - The normal hypocrites he's had on haven't cost people millions, perhaps, billions, of dollars. And he always points out the hypocrisy. Always. -- nm - TWuG Mar 13, 07:54
  - none of thoose people have been involved in creating the biggest depression in ages i think -- nm - danedukenuuk Mar 13, 07:54
  - Some of it is channeling the populist anger of his audience, some is living up to the hype of the feud that had been played up over the last week. -- nm - znufrii Mar 13, 07:53 2
    - but mostly I just think its kept in scale to the opportunity the moment presents. - znufrii Mar 13, 07:56
    - The as-named "Weeklong Feud of the Century". -- nm - Diva Mar 13, 07:54

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I only know Jim Cramer as a cartoon from the Bear Stearns incident and the King Of The Hing episode.

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