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In response to "Depends. The Marvel Captain Marvel could be good. The DC Captain Marvel (aka Shazam!) will probably not be good." by Focused, Non-Terminal Repeating Phantasm

although, DC has done a great job casting the villian -- nm

Posted by Peglegpete (aka peglegpete) Oct 29 '14, 12:57

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DC's problem hasn't been casting. It's writing and directing. Nothing wrong with the actors in Man of Steel - Focused, Non-Terminal Repeating Phantasm Oct 29, 13:02 43
- Man of Steel could the DC version of what Marvel did with The Incredible Hulk. - Inigo Oct 29, 13:14 36
  - Except the guy who screwed up Hulk didn't get hired to do anything else by Marvel. -- nm - Focused, Non-Terminal Repeating Phantasm Oct 29, 13:21 6
    - *crying at home with his 2 Oscars* -- nm - Ang Lee si Oct 29, 13:30
    - Man of Steel was also greatly influenced by Christopher Nolan. He has a pretty good track record. - Inigo Oct 29, 13:28 4
      - I don't think I'd rate any of Snyder's films as good. -- nm - All humans are vermin in the eyes of Roger Morbo Oct 29, 13:46
      - Uhm. Boring is not the point. - Spawn the Impaler Oct 29, 13:44 2
        
        it happens ALL THE TIME. - groiny Oct 29, 13:46 1
        
        Yet Marvel has stayed true to the principles of all their characters so far. -- nm - Spawn the Impaler Oct 29, 13:48
  - Deadline reported that DC does love Eisenberg and want him to do Lex in the Suicide Squad movie. - Diva Oct 29, 13:19 1
    - Lex should be the Nick Fury in the DC films leading up to a major story -- nm - Peglegpete Oct 29, 13:30
  - No, the Hulk movie did not basically ruin what the character stood for. -- nm - Spawn the Impaler Oct 29, 13:15 25
    - My point is that Marvel's first movie in the plan was a borderline bomb. - Inigo Oct 29, 13:22 3
      - I honestly expect (spoil) - Spawn the Impaler Oct 29, 13:35
      - Actually, wasn't Hulk #2? There's a spoils - Will Hunting Oct 29, 13:23 1
        
        Err, you're right. Iron Man was May 2008. Hulk was June of 2008. -- nm - Inigo Oct 29, 13:32
    - you guys put WAY too much stock on throwing this out there every time. nm -- nm - groiny Oct 29, 13:16 20
      - Only because it is rather blatantly important. -- nm - Spawn the Impaler Oct 29, 13:21 19
        
        only to a select few, apparently. nm -- nm - groiny Oct 29, 13:21 18
        
        That is why it did, what, 60% of the last DC movie BO? -- nm - Spawn the Impaler Oct 29, 13:24 9
        
        I am 100% certain the BO had nothing to do with the way the movie ended. nm -- nm - groiny Oct 29, 13:25 8
        
        But the overall WOM about the tone? Of course it did. -- nm - Spawn the Impaler Oct 29, 13:34 7
        
        IIRC, I did not hear anything about the tone, per se. I did hear that it was more Batman and less Rainbows. nm -- nm - groiny Oct 29, 13:35 6
        
        "He will be a God to them... " - Jorel in the trailer Oct 29, 13:39 5
        
        eventually, sure. - groiny Oct 29, 13:40 4
        
        But see, Superman is as far from a God to us as is possible. He is the best of what we strive to be. - Spawn the Impaler Oct 29, 13:42 3
        
        eventually, sure. - groiny Oct 29, 13:45 2
        
        But he could have saved that family in at least a half dozen ways that did not include what he resorted to. -- nm - Spawn the Impaler Oct 29, 13:46 1
        
        how? in the split second he had to decide? -- nm - groiny Oct 29, 13:46
        
        If Superman being a big blue boyscout isn't important to you, then you've completely missed the point of the character. -- nm - Focused, Non-Terminal Repeating Phantasm Oct 29, 13:23 7
        
        Superman in 1950? sure. Superman in 2014? notsomuch. nm -- nm - groiny Oct 29, 13:23 6
        
        Yep, you don't get it. Superman isn't Superman unless he's a completely idealistic man. - TWuG Oct 29, 13:37 3
        
        Or closer to the point, if Batman carried a gun. -- nm - Spawn the Impaler Oct 29, 13:40 1
        
        which the Nolan Batman films never even brought up. nm -- nm - groiny Oct 29, 13:41
        
        it does not matter if I get it. What matters is that makes him a very hard character to make interesting. nm -- nm - groiny Oct 29, 13:39
        
        one of the best comics ever (Action Comics 775) disagrees with you -- nm - Beaker Oct 29, 13:35 1
        
        the world in 2014 is a much different world than it was when Superman started. - groiny Oct 29, 13:38
  - *could be* -- nm - Inigo Oct 29, 13:15
- World Boltinoff :))))) -- nm - Peglegpete Oct 29, 13:07
- I liked the new Superman. But then again I couldn't understand the need to reboot Spiderman so soon. - Loyola Oct 29, 13:05 4
  - Your IM is directed at all except for Marvel Studios, I would hope. -- nm - Spawn the Impaler Oct 29, 13:06 3
    - They're not really my thing in general. I liked the first Thor movie though. So much better than Avengers. - Loyola Oct 29, 13:17 2
      - *blank stare* -- nm - groiny Oct 29, 13:17 1
        
        Comic book films, that is. -- nm - Loyola Oct 29, 13:21
Plus, we are smart enough to know a female can not be the star! -- nm - DC Oct 29, 13:00

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