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In response to "DC's problem hasn't been casting. It's writing and directing. Nothing wrong with the actors in Man of Steel" by Focused, Non-Terminal Repeating Phantasm

Man of Steel could the DC version of what Marvel did with The Incredible Hulk.

Posted by Inigo (aka Inigo) Oct 29 '14, 13:14

Meaning, it was a reboot of a recent comic book film. That didn't hurt Marvel because they followed it up with Iron Man, but if you had looked at Marvel's plan right after The Incredible Hulk's release, you might not have been confident in The Plan.

Marvel found lightning in a bottle with RDJ as Iron Man. That basically means DC would have to find the same in either Ben Affleck, Jason Mamou, Gal Gadot, or Ray Fisher.

Another key could be people loving Jesse Eisenberg's Lex Luthor. I don't think any of those things are likely, but some perspective seems to be lost here.

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Except the guy who screwed up Hulk didn't get hired to do anything else by Marvel. -- nm - Focused, Non-Terminal Repeating Phantasm Oct 29, 13:21 6
- *crying at home with his 2 Oscars* -- nm - Ang Lee si Oct 29, 13:30
- Man of Steel was also greatly influenced by Christopher Nolan. He has a pretty good track record. - Inigo Oct 29, 13:28 4
  - I don't think I'd rate any of Snyder's films as good. -- nm - All humans are vermin in the eyes of Roger Morbo Oct 29, 13:46
  - Uhm. Boring is not the point. - Spawn the Impaler Oct 29, 13:44 2
    - it happens ALL THE TIME. - groiny Oct 29, 13:46 1
      - Yet Marvel has stayed true to the principles of all their characters so far. -- nm - Spawn the Impaler Oct 29, 13:48
Deadline reported that DC does love Eisenberg and want him to do Lex in the Suicide Squad movie. - Diva Oct 29, 13:19 1
- Lex should be the Nick Fury in the DC films leading up to a major story -- nm - Peglegpete Oct 29, 13:30
No, the Hulk movie did not basically ruin what the character stood for. -- nm - Spawn the Impaler Oct 29, 13:15 25
- My point is that Marvel's first movie in the plan was a borderline bomb. - Inigo Oct 29, 13:22 3
  - I honestly expect (spoil) - Spawn the Impaler Oct 29, 13:35
  - Actually, wasn't Hulk #2? There's a spoils - Will Hunting Oct 29, 13:23 1
    - Err, you're right. Iron Man was May 2008. Hulk was June of 2008. -- nm - Inigo Oct 29, 13:32
- you guys put WAY too much stock on throwing this out there every time. nm -- nm - groiny Oct 29, 13:16 20
  - Only because it is rather blatantly important. -- nm - Spawn the Impaler Oct 29, 13:21 19
    - only to a select few, apparently. nm -- nm - groiny Oct 29, 13:21 18
      - That is why it did, what, 60% of the last DC movie BO? -- nm - Spawn the Impaler Oct 29, 13:24 9
        
        I am 100% certain the BO had nothing to do with the way the movie ended. nm -- nm - groiny Oct 29, 13:25 8
        
        But the overall WOM about the tone? Of course it did. -- nm - Spawn the Impaler Oct 29, 13:34 7
        
        IIRC, I did not hear anything about the tone, per se. I did hear that it was more Batman and less Rainbows. nm -- nm - groiny Oct 29, 13:35 6
        
        "He will be a God to them... " - Jorel in the trailer Oct 29, 13:39 5
        
        eventually, sure. - groiny Oct 29, 13:40 4
        
        But see, Superman is as far from a God to us as is possible. He is the best of what we strive to be. - Spawn the Impaler Oct 29, 13:42 3
        
        eventually, sure. - groiny Oct 29, 13:45 2
        
        But he could have saved that family in at least a half dozen ways that did not include what he resorted to. -- nm - Spawn the Impaler Oct 29, 13:46 1
        
        how? in the split second he had to decide? -- nm - groiny Oct 29, 13:46
      - If Superman being a big blue boyscout isn't important to you, then you've completely missed the point of the character. -- nm - Focused, Non-Terminal Repeating Phantasm Oct 29, 13:23 7
        
        Superman in 1950? sure. Superman in 2014? notsomuch. nm -- nm - groiny Oct 29, 13:23 6
        
        Yep, you don't get it. Superman isn't Superman unless he's a completely idealistic man. - TWuG Oct 29, 13:37 3
        
        Or closer to the point, if Batman carried a gun. -- nm - Spawn the Impaler Oct 29, 13:40 1
        
        which the Nolan Batman films never even brought up. nm -- nm - groiny Oct 29, 13:41
        
        it does not matter if I get it. What matters is that makes him a very hard character to make interesting. nm -- nm - groiny Oct 29, 13:39
        
        one of the best comics ever (Action Comics 775) disagrees with you -- nm - Beaker Oct 29, 13:35 1
        
        the world in 2014 is a much different world than it was when Superman started. - groiny Oct 29, 13:38
*could be* -- nm - Inigo Oct 29, 13:15

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