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So they are saying that "if she wore a helmet it would have helped". I have never worn a helmet snow skiing.

Posted by Redmond(first ST Killzone2 night is 03/18 5PM PDT) (aka Redmond) Mar 18 '09, 07:15

If he just would have worn a helmet before she slipped in the shower.

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my parents both now, ever sincethey were skiing with some friends, one of them fell and hit his head on a rock a couple years back - tRuMaN Mar 18, 07:24
she was on a bunny hill. I'm not sure how much injury she should have been expecting. -- nm - Callisto Mar 18, 07:21 5
- That's no ordinary bunny hill. -- nm - Ender Mar 18, 07:25 4
  - What's it gonna do? nibble your skis? -- nm - zork Mar 18, 07:45
  - We're gonna need a bigger bunny hill. -- nm - mara Mar 18, 07:34
  - It's got teeth! And it leaps! Look at the bones! nm - ralph wiggum Mar 18, 07:26
  - I mean, yes, hindsight 20/20 and all that, and I would probably wear a helmet, but I can understand why she might not have been. -- nm - Callisto Mar 18, 07:26
If her head got rattled that much from hitting snow, I'm not exactly sure how much it woulda helped to hit a plastic-encasement. - Will Hunting Mar 18, 07:21 27
- at this time of year, most hills are a thin layer of (often manufactured) snow over ice. -- nm - Andie with the black velvet band Mar 18, 07:34 4
  - note: two weeks ago we were skiing 45 minutes from where she was - dave's son broke his collarbone falling on 'snow'. he didn't fall that hard, eithe - Andie with the black velvet band Mar 18, 07:35 3
    - This kind of forces me to conclude that it's just not safe skiiling on that kind of snow. -- nm - mara Mar 18, 07:39 1
      - skiing can be dangerous on any kind of snow. people die skiing on not-very-big hills every year. -- nm - Andie with the black velvet band Mar 18, 07:39
    - exactly. It's not like we're talking about 2 feet of powder here. - Reagen Mar 18, 07:36
- most likely, hit ice pack or a rock just under the surface. -- nm - tRuMaN Mar 18, 07:24
- snow can be pretty hard if it's packed down - Reagen Mar 18, 07:24 2
  - Wrists are different; small bone, awkward landing angles. - Will Hunting Mar 18, 07:28
  - but by default you fall farther than most -- nm - zork Mar 18, 07:27
- then you're not understanding how helmets work or how hard snow can pack. plus I believe she tumbled for a bit. -- nm - zork Mar 18, 07:23 17
  - From every story I've read, she fell down, she hit her head; they did a routine evac to which she felt fine.... - Will Hunting Mar 18, 07:27 16
    - I don't think anyone is blaming her exactly, we're just pointing out that the risk is stronger than one might think. -- nm - Reagen Mar 18, 07:28 15
      - And I'm saying that risk, which is now greater than it was on Monday (as a knowledge point to us) is still miniscule and approaching the point where - Will Hunting Mar 18, 07:34 4
        
        in what way do they outweigh the risks? -- nm - Reagen Mar 18, 07:35 3
        
        Bad choice of wording on my part. - Will Hunting Mar 18, 07:40 2
        
        "feeling fine" at the time means nothing -- nm - zork Mar 18, 07:44
        
        this specific outcome is rare, yes. But lesser, but still serious accidents? Happen *all the time*. -- nm - Reagen Mar 18, 07:43
      - either that, or we're using a freak occurence to imply an increased risk that doesn't actually exist. -- nm - znufrii Mar 18, 07:29 9
        
        it's not the like the results are "catastrophic brain injury" or "nothing". - Reagen Mar 18, 07:34 8
        
        i hit my head two weeks ago. dave and i have been 'discussing' that we should all be wearing helmets next time. yesterday's news just solidified it. -- nm - Andie with the black velvet band Mar 18, 07:36 3
        
        you're discussing and he's nodding his head? ;-) -- nm - zork Mar 18, 07:38 2
        
        actually the opposite, he wanted me to wear one and i was resisting.... -- nm - Andie with the black velvet band Mar 18, 07:39 1
        
        awwww, he cares! -- nm - zork Mar 18, 07:51
        
        my point is more that she might have had an underlying condition that precipitated the fall and put her at higher risk for injury than a normal skier - znufrii Mar 18, 07:36 3
        
        you don't ski, do you? -- nm - Andie with the black velvet band Mar 18, 07:37 2
        
        *nodding* - Reagen Mar 18, 07:38
        
        like I said, i've only been once. -- nm - znufrii Mar 18, 07:37
are you sliding downhill at speed when you get in the shower? -- nm - The Quiet Roger More Mar 18, 07:16 21
- Okay, do you guys wear a helmet skiing? -- nm - Redmond(first ST Killzone2 night is 03/18 5PM PDT) Mar 18, 07:17 20
  - I don't go skiing, but I do wear a helmet when I have people throw trees at my head at 40 mph. -- nm - Ender Mar 18, 07:22
  - Ski'ed once, didn't wear a helmet; doubt I'd wear one now either. - Will Hunting Mar 18, 07:22
  - haven't skied in many years but when I go again, I'm thinking I should -- nm - zork Mar 18, 07:21
  - only been skiing once, didn't wear a helmet. - znufrii Mar 18, 07:20 1
    - and fwiw, if I ever teach my hypothetical kids how to ski, I will require that they wear helmets. -- nm - znufrii Mar 18, 07:26
  - when was the last time you went skiing? -- nm - Reagen Mar 18, 07:19 2
    - It's been about 6 years. So, who knows maybe people do now. -- nm - Redmond(first ST Killzone2 night is 03/18 5PM PDT) Mar 18, 07:20 1
      - many, many people do. - Reagen Mar 18, 07:22
  - Swear to Jeebus, if this turns into another one of those bike helmet arguments, I'm bashing your noggin with a snowboard. nm - ralph wiggum Mar 18, 07:19 3
    - I'll help hold him down. -- nm - kelly Mar 18, 07:23
    - if you're going to engage in pointless internet arguments, wear a helmet! -- nm - Reagen Mar 18, 07:20 1
      - and a cup -- nm - Dano Mar 18, 07:20
  - Not wearing a helmet doesn't mean it isn't smart to wear one. - TWuG Mar 18, 07:19
  - nope but then.... - Danedukenuuk Mar 18, 07:19
  - I haven't been skiing. But I wear a helmet when I ride a bike, for instance. -- nm - The Quiet Roger More Mar 18, 07:18 5
    - ain't that a given (and should be the law too) -- nm - Danedukenuuk Mar 18, 07:19 4
      - Sure, and the consequences of a bad accident are more or less the same. - The Quiet Roger More Mar 18, 07:23 3
        
        thats just stupid talk i've seen what happen with and without bike helmets and - Danedukenuuk Mar 18, 07:25 1
        
        Sure - I mean "the consequences of a bad skiing accident and the consequences of a bad cycling accident are more or less the same" - The Quiet Roger More Mar 18, 07:27
        
        and asphalt is generally harder than snow-pack. -- nm - znufrii Mar 18, 07:24
some understand Darwin some don't -- nm - Danedukenuuk Mar 18, 07:16

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