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"Steve Kerr is off to the best start of any rookie coach in NBA history. " -- nm
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prayformojo (aka mayhem)
Dec 11 '14, 13:13
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Unless your Phil Jackson. -- nm
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tobor.2
Dec 11, 13:29
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..you're.. -- nm
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tobor.2
Dec 11, 13:29
Baseball --- that game boils down to rather simple...throw ball, hit ball....
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Will Hunting
Dec 11, 13:23
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Because they're totally wrong. -- nm
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spamlet
Dec 11, 13:33
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Same here. I consider baseball and football to be most easily influenced by coaching.
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David
Dec 11, 13:30
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But in baseball even the best teams lose 40% of the time. Because even bad teams can have a pitcher who throws a great game or hitter who gets hot.
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pmb
Dec 11, 13:40
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I just don't see it as coincidence that Bobby Cox, Joe Torre and Tony LaRussa dominated their peers.
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David
Dec 11, 13:42
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Cox was gifted 2.75 first ballot HOF pitchers and half a dozen other HOF hitters....
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Will Hunting
Dec 11, 13:49
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Similarly, consider Phil Jackson that took a team the year after Michael Jordan's first retirement to within a bad refs call from going back to the
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pmb
Dec 11, 13:52
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I would never use Phil in this conversation becuase I don't think he's that good.
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Will Hunting
Dec 11, 13:56
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The Bulls were their own worst enemies until Jackson was hired.
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tobor.2
Dec 11, 14:07
They weren't coaching the equivalent of the 76ers either. I think those guys are more akin to Phil Jackson than anything in that they had really good
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pmb
Dec 11, 13:47
this was part of my thinking, too - which sports have mgrs/coaches who really rise above others, over the course of years and not necessarily because
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b.
Dec 11, 13:46
I disagree strongly on hockey. Schemes and personnel matching (both inter and intra) are huge
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Reagen
Dec 11, 13:35
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Hockey seems like the outcome is largely determined by who has the best goalie at the time. -- nm
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David
Dec 11, 13:36
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I was reading some hockey metrics that showed that a correlation between coaches that actively tinker with their lines, looking for match-ups, etc.
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pmb
Dec 11, 13:42
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But that's the complete opposite of investing advice! -- nm
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Max
Dec 11, 13:48
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There are studies that show that women do better at investing than men.
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tobor.2
Dec 11, 13:52
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But that's the complete opposite of sports advice! -- nm
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Max
Dec 11, 14:07
1
Yep. On the other hand tinkering with the line-up doesn't usually incur bank fees. ;) -- nm
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tobor.2
Dec 11, 14:08
That's okay, men make up for the lost money by working 15% less hours. -- nm
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Will Hunting
Dec 11, 13:58
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What does that have to do with sports or investing? -- nm
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tobor.2
Dec 11, 14:07
it's certainly a big element, but there's more to it than that.
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Reagen
Dec 11, 13:42
Part of it is that I think baseball is much more of an individual sport, played as a team and the others are truly team sports. I think that's why
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pmb
Dec 11, 13:27
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but baseball managers (and staff) have a lot of input into pitching/hitting matchups,
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b.
Dec 11, 13:31
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I don't see that at all. Ball movement, team defense are all key. Tom Thibedeau coaching 50+ win teams with Derrick Rose out (and after trades of
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pmb
Dec 11, 13:36
I actually typed something like that and deleted, especially current basketball; but those individuals, even at their most diva-y, have to rely
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b.
Dec 11, 13:32
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wut? -- nm
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Kobe SI
Dec 11, 13:33
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I wouldn't say that at all. I agree with budice. -- nm
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pmb
Dec 11, 13:22
I'm more apt to say baseball. -- nm
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budice
Dec 11, 13:21
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I think I'd say hockey over that. -- nm
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b.
Dec 11, 13:25
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yes -- nm
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Beaker
Dec 11, 13:25
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