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Baseball --- that game boils down to rather simple...throw ball, hit ball....

Posted by Will Hunting (aka JoeMetz) Dec 11 '14, 13:23

a great coach in basketball can design an offense or defense to neutralize the other teams' strengths (Pete Carrill at Princeton for instance)....

I'd rank them Football, hockey, basketball, baseball.

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- Because they're totally wrong. -- nm - spamlet Dec 11, 13:33 1
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- Same here. I consider baseball and football to be most easily influenced by coaching. - David Dec 11, 13:30 18
  - But in baseball even the best teams lose 40% of the time. Because even bad teams can have a pitcher who throws a great game or hitter who gets hot. - pmb Dec 11, 13:40 7
    - I just don't see it as coincidence that Bobby Cox, Joe Torre and Tony LaRussa dominated their peers. - David Dec 11, 13:42 6
      - Cox was gifted 2.75 first ballot HOF pitchers and half a dozen other HOF hitters.... - Will Hunting Dec 11, 13:49 3
        
        Similarly, consider Phil Jackson that took a team the year after Michael Jordan's first retirement to within a bad refs call from going back to the - pmb Dec 11, 13:52 2
        
        I would never use Phil in this conversation becuase I don't think he's that good. - Will Hunting Dec 11, 13:56 1
        
        The Bulls were their own worst enemies until Jackson was hired. - tobor.2 Dec 11, 14:07
      - They weren't coaching the equivalent of the 76ers either. I think those guys are more akin to Phil Jackson than anything in that they had really good - pmb Dec 11, 13:47
      - this was part of my thinking, too - which sports have mgrs/coaches who really rise above others, over the course of years and not necessarily because - b. Dec 11, 13:46
  - I disagree strongly on hockey. Schemes and personnel matching (both inter and intra) are huge - Reagen Dec 11, 13:35 9
    - Hockey seems like the outcome is largely determined by who has the best goalie at the time. -- nm - David Dec 11, 13:36 8
      - I was reading some hockey metrics that showed that a correlation between coaches that actively tinker with their lines, looking for match-ups, etc. - pmb Dec 11, 13:42 6
        
        But that's the complete opposite of investing advice! -- nm - Max Dec 11, 13:48 5
        
        There are studies that show that women do better at investing than men. - tobor.2 Dec 11, 13:52 4
        
        But that's the complete opposite of sports advice! -- nm - Max Dec 11, 14:07 1
        
        Yep. On the other hand tinkering with the line-up doesn't usually incur bank fees. ;) -- nm - tobor.2 Dec 11, 14:08
        
        That's okay, men make up for the lost money by working 15% less hours. -- nm - Will Hunting Dec 11, 13:58 1
        
        What does that have to do with sports or investing? -- nm - tobor.2 Dec 11, 14:07
      - it's certainly a big element, but there's more to it than that. - Reagen Dec 11, 13:42
- Part of it is that I think baseball is much more of an individual sport, played as a team and the others are truly team sports. I think that's why - pmb Dec 11, 13:27 7
  - but baseball managers (and staff) have a lot of input into pitching/hitting matchups, - b. Dec 11, 13:31
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    - I don't see that at all. Ball movement, team defense are all key. Tom Thibedeau coaching 50+ win teams with Derrick Rose out (and after trades of - pmb Dec 11, 13:36
    - I actually typed something like that and deleted, especially current basketball; but those individuals, even at their most diva-y, have to rely - b. Dec 11, 13:32 3
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      - wut? -- nm - Kobe SI Dec 11, 13:33 1
        
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