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Serious, sincere question for my friend Dignan.

Posted by ralph wiggum (aka Wiggum17) Mar 17 '15, 21:42

Because I'm really only partially educated on the issue: what do moderate GGers want?

(I assume it's not really related to the "ethics in game journalism" as that just seems patently silly.)

Responses:

Honestly, I don't think it started as ethics in journalism. - Dignan Mar 17, 22:09 5
- It's fucking maddening that people managed to turn even this into left vs right... -- nm - Guigue Mar 18, 05:24 1
  - Politicization of Everything FTW -- nm - Strongbad Mar 18, 05:53
- Great link, thanks. -- nm - Strongbad Mar 18, 05:11
- That's really helpful. *smooch* nm - ralph wiggum Mar 17, 22:13 1
  - eww, tongue -- nm - professor smartbrain Mar 17, 22:15
I'm one who thinks ethics in game journalism isn't a petty issue, but we had this argument months ago and I'm in a tiny minority opinion on it. -- nm - Max Mar 17, 21:44 11
- Apologies if it actually is about ethics. I assumed that was a red herring - ralph wiggum Mar 17, 21:50 10
  - I wouldn't try to find much sanity in the GG discussion, as most of it seems to be "don't be misogynist" vs "we're not, it's just that women suck" - Max Mar 17, 21:59 5
    - I actually agree with much of this - Reagen Mar 17, 22:07 3
      - pay for play, plagiarism, and lack of sourcing. My concern is after we defeat the a-holes in GG, everyone cries 'Victory! We can all go home now.' - Max Mar 17, 22:12 [youtube] 1
        
        I think a more inclusive gaming community will help rectify some of those issues. Be a bit less hand-in-glove in nature - TWuG Mar 17, 22:21
      - If think you are probably right. -- nm - tobor.2 Mar 17, 22:11
    - It's not a petty issue, but they seem to beusing it as a weapon against women in gaming. - tobor.2 Mar 17, 22:05
  - It mostly is a red herring. The relevant issue of "ethics" is discussed in the second paragraph under "History" at the link -- (link) - TWuG Mar 17, 21:53 1
    - Got Depression Quest right, forgot it was Quinn's disgruntled ex that started the "ethics" part of it. - tobor.2 Mar 17, 22:00
  - I would say that gaming journalism/reviews is garbage, but not for the reasons that GG supposes. - Reagen Mar 17, 21:52
  - GG is an onion. At its core is a bunch of crybabies who exploit people's legitimate concerns in order to further their own hateful screed. -- nm - Beryllium Mar 17, 21:51
This is what I'm curious about, to. Because I don't see GGers arguing "for" anything, but "against" quite a lot. -- nm - TWuG Mar 17, 21:44 2
- The ethics disclosures policy changes at some of the major gaming sites would beg to differ. -- nm - Scots-IrishStephen Mar 17, 21:45 1
  - "We hung some curtains!" "Great, but we asked you to take out the trash." That seems to be a very self-serving - TWuG Mar 17, 21:48

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