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In response to "If that were the easy way out he would have offed himself. -- nm" by Ultron

Any number of reason that would not be the case. Nice try though. -- nm

Posted by znufrii Apr 8 '15, 11:47

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Yeah, lets just feed him and house him and let him gloat. - Ultron Apr 8, 11:48 25
- Because that's the only other option - znufrii Apr 8, 12:00 5
  - Ah, so you'd prefer he be repeatedly beaten and raped then put to death? nm - Simon Phoenix Apr 8, 12:02 1
    - Well it's not the Ritz, that's for sure. -- nm - znufrii Apr 8, 12:05
  - He will still 100x better than the peole he killed. Than the children he killed. -- nm - Ultron Apr 8, 12:01 2
    - Apples and oranges. - znufrii Apr 8, 12:08 1
      - Bingo! Thanks for playing. -- nm - Ultron Apr 8, 12:12
- To me this is just the wrong line of arguing. The issue to me isn't whether this guy deserves to die, it's that if I accept his death I have to - pmb Apr 8, 11:56 16
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    - I'm not comfortable that we can be sure there's no coersion or that we truly know the full story. - pmb Apr 8, 12:13 1
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    - Actually, this is pretty well right where I am on this. Not that you asked me. - Simon Phoenix Apr 8, 12:04
  - Good points, but I still disagree. This guy is not quite Hitler but shares in that there is zero doubt of his guilt. -- nm - Ultron Apr 8, 11:58 11
    - This is where I fall. When there is no doubt of guilt for a crime like this...done. -- nm - Simon Phoenix Apr 8, 11:59 10
      - The problem is you don't get that option. There will always be people who are believed to be 100% absolutely guilty that turn out not to be. People - pmb Apr 8, 12:27 9
        
        Actually, the only time I'd ever be that guy is if I was on the jury. And, frankly, that's exactly how I would vote on a death penalty case...just - Simon Phoenix Apr 8, 12:31 8
        
        Yeah, I get that, but the point I'm trying to make is that since you can't have the absolute certainty that everyone is going to apply your view of - pmb Apr 8, 12:37 7
        
        If someone confesses to killing a massive amount of people and continues to through a trial, they are as guilty as they need to be. - Ultron Apr 8, 12:46 6
        
        Again, you're missing the point. - pmb Apr 8, 12:49 4
        
        I understand that but it does not change what I said. It is black and white. Absolute. -- nm - Ultron Apr 8, 12:56 1
        
        But here' s my question for you then. I get that you're in favor in absolute certain situations, but the system that exists says that to get the - pmb Apr 8, 13:01
        
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        Even that would have flaws. You just don't get divine certainty and absolute fairness of application. - pmb Apr 8, 12:58
        
        Word. -- nm - Simon Phoenix Apr 8, 12:48
- And TV interviews. Don't forget those. They'll be great too. -- nm - Simon Phoenix Apr 8, 11:53 1
  - Hi everybody! -- nm - Charles Manson Apr 8, 11:54

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