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In response to "Actually, the only time I'd ever be that guy is if I was on the jury. And, frankly, that's exactly how I would vote on a death penalty case...just " by Simon Phoenix

Yeah, I get that, but the point I'm trying to make is that since you can't have the absolute certainty that everyone is going to apply your view of

Posted by pmb (aka pmb) Apr 8 '15, 12:37

how much certainty is needed, etc., are you willing to accept the system. Because that's where it breaks down for me. If I want the right to have a death penalty for guys I'm absolutely certain deserve it, I have to accept that there are going to be people who don't deserve that are going to get it too. So I'd rather a system where it's off the table altogether and let some scumbags live than accept the flawed system that comes with one where we execute some scumbags.

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If someone confesses to killing a massive amount of people and continues to through a trial, they are as guilty as they need to be. - Ultron Apr 8, 12:46 6
- Again, you're missing the point. - pmb Apr 8, 12:49 4
  - I understand that but it does not change what I said. It is black and white. Absolute. -- nm - Ultron Apr 8, 12:56 1
    - But here' s my question for you then. I get that you're in favor in absolute certain situations, but the system that exists says that to get the - pmb Apr 8, 13:01
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    - Even that would have flaws. You just don't get divine certainty and absolute fairness of application. - pmb Apr 8, 12:58
- Word. -- nm - Simon Phoenix Apr 8, 12:48

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