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ST Poll: Should the government be willing to recognize more than two parents for a child?

Posted by ty97 Apr 21 '15, 11:24

For example (though not limited to this example) say that two married lesbians decide to have a baby using sperm from a close male friend and all three of them agree in advance that they want to all three be parents to the child. Should laws be adapted to allow for three parents to be recognized?

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In ye olde daze, the concept of godparents was a real thing, if the adults of one family got killed off (plague, vendetta) it was already arranged - zeitgeist Apr 21, 12:18
No. "Parents" as a legal concept is about legal liability for the child and inheritance. It's not about who the child loves or who loves the child. - landbeck Apr 21, 11:53 1
- I agree, but I think there's a difference between "parents" and "parental rights." - ReluctantCynic Apr 21, 11:59
I think I'd rather see a birth record indicate known biological parents (amendable later) and maybe then list legally authorized guardians. - Max Apr 21, 11:50 5
- So the equivalent of civil unions? - ty97 Apr 21, 11:53 3
  - I think if people are choosing to have arrangements where more than 2 people are viewed as parents, then it is on them to see that - TWuG Apr 21, 12:21 1
    - In this case only people of financial means would be able to achieve it. -- nm - ty97 Apr 21, 12:48
  - I only had half an ear on the NPR story yesterday so I don't understand what the problem is. -- nm - Max Apr 21, 11:54
- The trickier question to me is how you identify a rapist on the certificate. Father? Certainly the current laws should be changed to eliminate their - Max Apr 21, 11:52
The government already does. Well, at least a number of state governments do. -- nm - ReluctantCynic Apr 21, 11:49 2
- I didn't realize any states allowed yet. - ty97 Apr 21, 11:51 1
  - Family law is pretty much entirely left up to the states, not the federal government. - ReluctantCynic Apr 21, 11:54
That's making things way to complicated and complex for a child. All children should be removed from their parents at birth and placed under the care - decline Apr 21, 11:43
per yesterday's non-onion news, this is irrelevant since same sex marriage causes abortion. that child will never be born. - amanda Apr 21, 11:41
What's the current rule on surrogates who carry but don't share DNA with the child? -- nm - Max Apr 21, 11:38 1
- Varies by state. -- nm - ty97 Apr 21, 11:40
I think the government should recognize biological parentage and any other guardians those parents choose to appoint. - TWuG Apr 21, 11:36
Why do they need to? If (man/woman) parents divorce and both get remarried, are all four recognized as parents for the child? - JaxSean Apr 21, 11:36 7
- Assume cases where more than 2 people agree that they want to be parents to a child together - ty97 Apr 21, 11:40 5
  - But they could be if expressly named in a legal document as a guardian, such as a will, correct? (Currently) -- nm - JaxSean Apr 21, 11:43
  - Can two or three parents later decide to form an alliance and vote the remaining parent off the rights list? -- nm - Max Apr 21, 11:42 3
    - not if the remaining parent has an immunity doll -- nm - decline Apr 21, 11:44
    - Any law allowing multiple parents would have to define how a party's parentage rights can be terminated - ty97 Apr 21, 11:43 1
      - Thunderdome! -- nm - Beaker Apr 21, 11:44
- i think it totally depends. i bet there are lots of families that consider that their child has more than two parents, and that they should all have - Andie Apr 21, 11:37
What is the difference between recognizing parents vs guardians? -- nm - Max Apr 21, 11:34 4
- I think this is my question. Parent seems to signify biological, Guardian would seem to signify legality. -- nm - JaxSean Apr 21, 11:44 3
  - Parent isn't necessarily biological though. Think of infertile or gay couples that have a child via a surrogate. - ty97 Apr 21, 11:48 2
    - Obviously from a genetic standpoint, yes, each person has two biological parents. But those don't have to be the legal parents. - ty97 Apr 21, 11:50 1
      - IANAL, but I think it comes down to making the idea of "parents" having the same rights as "guardians." - JaxSean Apr 21, 12:04
I see the same arguments against as what were developed against gay marriage - Beaker Apr 21, 11:32 1
- (I can also see some cult grasping onto this and making headlines right quick too, so there is definitely a risk) -- nm - Beaker Apr 21, 11:32
I feel like it's something I've never thought about, so I guess I'd need pros and cons -- nm - Guigue Apr 21, 11:31 1
- It takes a village, Guigue. -- nm - Ultron Apr 21, 11:36
So, what laws would need to be changed? Besides what forms look like and stuff like that -- nm - con_carne Apr 21, 11:31 1
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