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In response to "problem is, it sounds like they are always getting bailed out, they will never learn that way. nm -- nm" by groiny

(this is the same thing with my wife's sister), always saying "we can't afford groceries to feed our kids!"

then buying said kids new IPad minis or $200 fucking sneakers for each other or driving to Bangor to return a fucking $20 shirt...oh yes I am bitter.

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