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In response to "Is there a specific speech/statement/date where Obama officially publicly flipped on same sex marriage? -- nm" by Dano

IIRC, he came out in support of same sex marriage (saying his thinking had 'evolved') during his 2012 reelection campaign -- nm

Posted by ty97 Jun 28 '15, 07:08

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The inclusion of gay marriage in "Obama's great week" made me wonder how recent his flip flop was. -- nm - Dano Jun 28, 07:26 9
- It was definitely recent and while I credit him for supporting, both his support and Friday's result were powered by a rapid shift - ty97 Jun 28, 07:29 8
  - Let's go ahead and point out that Kagan and Sotomayor were his appointees though -- nm - con_carne Jun 28, 09:32 2
    - John Paul Stevens and David Souter who these two replaced would have voted the same way -- nm - amoxy Jun 28, 09:36 1
      - Silly amoxy. The alternative would have been 2010's version of conservative. -- nm* - con_carne Jun 28, 09:43
  - I strongly suspect that a key part is parents watching their children and their friends live in the social media era. - David Jun 28, 07:39 1
    - i thought the nate silver analysis purporting that 1/2 to 2/3 of the support coming from people changing their minds was interesting....nm - x Jun 28, 09:06
  - I certainly understand political reality, It's interesting for example to go back and look at the DOMA vote and see who voted Yea and Nay. -- nm - Dano Jun 28, 07:38 2
    - Yup, it is a tough area for progressives. They may privately support something but know it would shackle them publicly. - ty97 Jun 28, 07:40 1
      - For reals, how many of them actually have nightmares about SSM. Its more political than anything. - budice Jun 28, 07:42
looks like it may have been an ABC interview on May 9, 2012 -- (link) - ty97 Jun 28, 07:09 8
- And it was Biden that forced his hand on this. -- nm - Reagen Jun 28, 07:12 6
  - Forced or sounded the waters. - TWuG Jun 28, 07:21 3
    - Double Down suggested that Obama was all set to make the announcement during his campaign, and Biden made an unplanned remark -- nm - Roger More Jun 28, 08:32 1
      - that doesn't sound like joe biden....nm - x Jun 28, 08:37
    - Oh sure, Obama's "traditional marriage" support in 08 and first term was political and necessary. - ty97 Jun 28, 07:22
  - Yeah, I remember it being Biden. Obama was for civil unions from the start. -- nm* - Krusty Jun 28, 07:20
  - ah that's right, I had forgotten about that -- nm - ty97 Jun 28, 07:15
- yep -- nm - ML Jun 28, 07:09

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