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In response to "it is not about just getting the spoils, it is actually playing through and beating it." by groiny

I know you're just being stubborn right now, but let's talk seriously for a moment.

Posted by David (aka David) Jul 23 '15, 10:01

The way that everyone gets better is through better gear. The three drops at the end (or six if we start at the Gorgon chest) include exotics and raid gear. VoC in particular is a devastating weapon, as is the Mythoclast. Doing three Aetheon and three Crota finishes is better than doing a full run of one or the other. It's also a better use of time. Crota makes sense, because it's faster. If we want to go back to doing VoG, I'm fine with that, but at least three of the regular players struggle mightily with it. That has a tendency to frustrate everyone else.

What you're arguing right now is more about your getting Fatebringer than about everybody else getting better. And honestly, I'm fine with that as long as we have a checkpoint to start right at that drop. It's wasting half an hour getting to that point that's the problem.

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A suggestion. Lets run it on 26 and go through it. Learning it on hard mode was not good. - Spawn Jul 23, 10:45
as a former MMO player, I can tell you that it's not always gear. - Tim Jul 23, 10:18 2
- Yeah, a couple of the new folks - Spawn, especially - don't have a firm grasp on their specials yet. - David Jul 23, 10:20 1
  - he just needs better instructions. - groiny Jul 23, 10:23
People get better by learning the proper mechanics and learning how to tackle difficult encounters in an effective way. -- (edited) - Shaun Jul 23, 10:08 5
- Okay. -- nm - David Jul 23, 10:11 4
  - So we agree. Cool. -- nm - Shaun Jul 23, 10:15 3
    - Okay. -- nm - David Jul 23, 10:18 2
      - Well as long as everyone keeps taking your orders, you'll be happy I suppose. - Shaun Jul 23, 10:30 1
        
        okay. -- nm - David Jul 23, 10:32
also, to note, I am pretty sure everyone has just about everything from Crota. - groiny Jul 23, 10:08 14
- I'm working on it! -- nm - JaxSean Jul 23, 10:20 11
  - dude, I will help you with whatever I can, don't worry, you will get there. - groiny Jul 23, 10:22 10
    - I almost quit last night doing The Queen's Ransom. I died 13 times. So frustrating. -- nm - JaxSean Jul 23, 10:23 9
      - which one is that? - groiny Jul 23, 10:24 8
        
        Where you hop across the time-jumping platforms, and go to capture Skolas. - JaxSean Jul 23, 10:27 7
        
        What level are you? - David Jul 23, 10:30 3
        
        got to level 30 after. -- nm - JaxSean Jul 23, 10:43 2
        
        Are you trying L30 or L32? -- nm - David Jul 23, 10:45 1
        
        I don't remember. -- (link) - JaxSean Jul 23, 10:52
        
        yeah, that is a tough one to do yourself. - groiny Jul 23, 10:29 1
        
        Oh, I finished it. -- nm - JaxSean Jul 23, 10:43
        
        That'd be tough solo. -- nm - Shaun Jul 23, 10:29
- I obviously don't either. It's the exotic drops and the chance for Gally that's the driving impetus. - David Jul 23, 10:11 1
  - it really isn't though. - groiny Jul 23, 10:13
at this point, everyone is 34. The gear they get is marginally better than what they have, if even that. - groiny Jul 23, 10:04

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