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yeah, this just seems excessive. -- (link)
Posted by
znufrii
Sep 18 '15, 05:53
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http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/sep/18/black-teenager-arrested-by-nine-california-police-officers-after-jaywalking
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fuck that video, you have ZERO idea what led up to that point.
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groiny
Sep 18, 07:15
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other than the eyewitness description quoted in the article... -- nm
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znufrii
Sep 18, 07:40
The 9 cops aren't there for the kid, they're there because the douche shouting is making it an incident and they need to make sure nothing happens. -- nm
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Ender
Sep 18, 07:14
I'm rarely on the side of cops in these videos, but this time I don't see much of a problem. I don't see any beating and the take down to the ground
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Guigue
Sep 18, 06:12
Here's my problem with these videos...they never have the beginning of the altercation.
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Jim
Sep 18, 05:57
22
I wouldn't say it's "convenient". More that bystanders don't start recording until something is already happening. -- nm
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Roger More
Sep 18, 07:26
5
Call it what you will...the fact remains that you never see what got the cop's attention, only his reaction. -- nm
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Jim
Sep 18, 07:29
4
I agree it doesn't tell the whole story - but "the recording started too late" isn't something to get cynical over. -- nm
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Roger More
Sep 18, 07:37
2
no, not the recording, most of the time.
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groiny
Sep 18, 07:39
1
"Black teenager arrested by nine California police officers after 'jaywalking'"
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Roger More
Sep 18, 07:42
it is convenient when it is posted with a headline that says "innocent man assaulted by police!" -- nm
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groiny
Sep 18, 07:31
fair point.
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znufrii
Sep 18, 06:04
4
I stopped about 25 seconds in...and it certainly appears to be same ole, same ole white cop beats up on black kid.
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Jim
Sep 18, 06:06
3
There's no beating. 8 other cops show up, they take him to the ground and handcuff him. -- nm
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Ender
Sep 18, 07:16
2
Well, the first cop did take a swing at the kid. Either way, my point was more about the video only showing part of the story. -- nm
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Jim
Sep 18, 07:24
1 cop to arrest him, and 8 to hold his pants up. nm -- nm
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groiny
Sep 18, 07:19
Agreed, but it is a skinny 16 year old kid. Do they think he has a weapon? Or a clock? -- nm
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amoxy
Sep 18, 06:01
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They think that while the one cop is occupied on the ground trying to handcuff him either...
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Ender
Sep 18, 07:24
Then again it is Stockton, not the safest city around -- nm
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amoxy
Sep 18, 06:05
My comment was more in general...but speaking to this...who's to say that 15 seconds before that video started the kid didn't take a swing at the cop?
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Jim
Sep 18, 06:04
7
to your IM, I can think of a number of reasons why submitting to authority might not be the first thing on this kid's mind. -- nm*
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znufrii
Sep 18, 06:15
6
It might not be the first thing on his mind, but it should be. When has struggling and yelling EVER helped someone in his situation?
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Jim
Sep 18, 06:25
5
or maybe just not escalate the situation so it gets to that point in the first place? *shrug* -- nm
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znufrii
Sep 18, 06:50
4
Aren't we saying the same thing? *confused* -- nm
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Jim
Sep 18, 07:17
3
well, I was talking about the cop -- nm
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znufrii
Sep 18, 07:27
2
Ah...yeah, we won't find agreement there. -- nm
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Jim
Sep 18, 07:28
1
apologies for the confusion. :) -- nm
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znufrii
Sep 18, 07:31
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