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In response to "That's the reason he'll win. Most of the best players this year are on lousy teams." by David

it would be a 70 win Titanic who would have not been in the running most of the year without him. nm -- nm

Posted by groiny (aka groiny) Sep 29 '15, 08:39

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Hooray? -- nm - David Sep 29, 08:48 34
- it is a big deal when you team has a shot at playoffs into mid september. - groiny Sep 29, 08:54 33
  - It's not a big deal when you remember this team had World Series aspirations and his teammates loathe him. - David Sep 29, 08:56 31
    - Barry Bonds and Jeff Kent did okay together about 15 years ago. - Will Hunting Sep 29, 09:05
    - Ryne Sandberg was a great player who teammates all loved to death. - groiny Sep 29, 09:00 29
      - Hank Aaron and Ernie Banks as well. -- nm - Inigo Sep 29, 09:03 26
        
        Hank Aaron won a World Series. -- nm - David Sep 29, 09:07 4
        
        Sure, but he went to the playoffs three times in an almost 25 year career. Whereas Harper has already been there twice. - Inigo Sep 29, 09:13 3
        
        I think you're being generous describing what Groiny said as having a point. -- nm - David Sep 29, 09:14 2
        
        Chemistry means so much that teams trade for guys at the deadline - groiny Sep 29, 09:17 1
        
        Like. Papelbon! -- nm - David Sep 29, 09:17
        
        Jeff Bagwell, Craig Biggio, on and on. - groiny Sep 29, 09:06 20
        
        80 of them this year! - David Sep 29, 09:08 19
        
        because 1 player can account for all those games. - groiny Sep 29, 09:12 13
        
        And how about some blame thrown at the manager who wasn't even aware that his closer attacked his MVP -- nm - Jim Sep 29, 09:14 2
        
        Why would a manager think that his punk hitter would incite such an incident? - David Sep 29, 09:16
        
        He was watching the Ardenne forest and missed that. -- nm - Will Hunting Sep 29, 09:15
        
        80 win MVP! - David Sep 29, 09:13 8
        
        who would have won the triple crown if anyone else on the team would get on base. nm -- nm - groiny Sep 29, 09:14 7
        
        He's Jalen Rose without the smile. -- nm - David Sep 29, 09:15 6
        
        this is where the arguement goes plaid. nm -- nm - groiny Sep 29, 09:18 1
        
        No, that was bringing Ryne Sandberg for no logical reason. -- nm - David Sep 29, 09:29
        
        When was Jalen Rose ever the best at anything? -- nm - Jim Sep 29, 09:16 3
        
        Rose frequently led his losing teams in scoring. -- nm - David Sep 29, 09:17 2
        
        Every team has a scoring leader. This dude is the best in the game this season...not just on his team. -- nm - Jim Sep 29, 09:18 1
        
        Right, every losing team has a best player. -- nm - David Sep 29, 09:20
        
        The projected opening day starting lineup played 2 games together this year. -- nm - Will Hunting Sep 29, 09:13
        
        He has about 30% of the team's WAR. The team has had 35-40 players.... - Will Hunting Sep 29, 09:10 4
        
        I'm not trying to get at anything. I'm saying what he is. - David Sep 29, 09:13 2
        
        No, we're arguing reality with supporting facts as to his greatness. You're arguing hypotheticals about how he's the most hated and how the fans - Will Hunting Sep 29, 09:14 1
        
        He's not being booed in your reality! -- nm - David Sep 29, 09:18
        
        Of all the team sports, baseball is the one where even the greatest of players can't win games all by himself. - Jim Sep 29, 09:13
      - Well, if there's one example of morale not helping... -- nm - David Sep 29, 09:03
      - Word. I don't see anyone having any problem with him when he goes 2-4 with a HR and 3 RBI. nm - Jim Sep 29, 09:01
  - It's right there in the article. They have roughly a +35 WAR for the team this year. Harper is worth 10 of those 35. - Will Hunting Sep 29, 08:56

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