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The last one closed in *1996* -- nm
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by
Reagen
And what was the mortality rate then? -- nm
Posted by
Ender
Oct 6 '15, 12:07
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Likely ... lower. Early in the century though after five years you had a 30 to 60% chance of being dead. They were still going strong in the 50s/60s. -- nm
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zork
Oct 6, 12:10
Call me doubtful that as many kids were dying of tuberculosis in 1996. -- nm
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Ender
Oct 6, 12:10
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garbage food, little heat, high flu rates, and serious beatings (sometimes fatal). It was never all from TB -- nm
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zork
Oct 6, 12:23
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My point is, you can't shout "6-12% MORTALITY RATE!!!" and then try to compare that to modern institutions.
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Ender
Oct 6, 12:33
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Who did that? Other than someone else comparing to "projects" schools in the US
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zork
Oct 6, 13:04
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"Can you imagine any school system in Canada or the US today having a 6-12% die-off every year?"- Beryllium Oct 6, 15:00 (26) -- nm*
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Ender
Oct 6, 13:06
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We're talking about like 1908 though, right? -- nm - Ender Oct 6, 15:05 (17) -- nm
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Ender
Oct 6, 13:07
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Nope -- nm - zork Oct 6, 15:06 (1) -- nm
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Ender
Oct 6, 13:08
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Nope, as in there was horrible shit happening for many decades after that, into the 70s at least.
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zork
Oct 6, 13:11
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Bery was certainly comparing it to modern school systems. -- nm
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Ender
Oct 6, 13:13
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"Can you imagine?" isn't really a comparison. And the mortality rates in these schools were a lot higher than the Canadian average for school children
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Roger More
Oct 6, 13:19
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Which is also an apples and oranges comparison, given that average school children don't go to residential schools.
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Ender
Oct 6, 13:22
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The point we are trying to get across is that we are talking about a population that has been disadvantaged for a long period of time.
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Roger More
Oct 6, 13:27
I was saying it would be unconscionable in a modern school system.
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Beryllium
Oct 6, 13:16
so reply to him. -- nm
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zork
Oct 6, 13:14
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I did, and then you kept replying to me. -- nm
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Ender
Oct 6, 13:20
No, but the death rate at these schools was a lot higher than the death rate for school-aged children across Canada -- (link)
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Roger More
Oct 6, 12:41
I'm going to say there was no time in the 18th through 20th century when that kind of mortality rate was normal for school-attending children. -- nm
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Reagen
Oct 6, 12:40
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Yeah, same for the forced sterilization rates -- nm
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Beryllium
Oct 6, 12:41
I'd be very interested in a comparison with the mortality rates of turn-of-the-century US & Canadian orphanages though. -- nm
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Ender
Oct 6, 12:37
no, although it's still an endemic problem in Native populations.
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Reagen
Oct 6, 12:12
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