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Kentucky Gov race: We ran into the unexpected headwinds of Trump-mania

Posted by Strongbad (aka Rambler14) Nov 4 '15, 04:53

losing to an outsider candidate in the year of the outsider

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Or just uninformed voters that continue to vote against their own best interests. - Krusty Nov 4, 05:41 62
- So are rich liberals who vote against their economic interests uninformed as well? -- nm - iSpam Nov 4, 06:00 58
  - they can be aware, yes, that they're voting against their own interest. - Mel Profit Nov 4, 06:12 13
    - And so do those that vote Republican. They vote based on social issues the exact same way that wealthy liberals do. - spamlet Nov 4, 06:16 12
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        Democrats want more taxes, right? That directly comes from their pocketbooks. Ergo... -- nm - spamlet Nov 4, 06:36 10
        
        There are other interests at play. A more just society, for instance. -- nm - mara Nov 4, 06:44 1
        
        Yes, social reasons. Again, the same thing. -- nm - spamlet Nov 4, 06:47
        
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        Warren Buffett is one. They don't get much more successful than him. - TWuG Nov 4, 06:41
        
        For social reasons, yes. The same reason that many poor people vote for the GOP. Thanks for stating my argument. -- nm - spamlet Nov 4, 06:39 3
        
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        There are some, yes. I've never said that there were none. But they're a far minority from the broad brush of "we're losing because of this" - spamlet Nov 4, 06:46 1
        
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        Well, not all. Obama did renew the "Bush Tax Cuts" -- nm - Strongbad Nov 4, 06:38
        
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  - Maybe but when they do vote against their interests it's not going cost them access to health care. They'll still be rich and have every opportunity -- (edited) - Krusty Nov 4, 06:05 43
    - I dismiss the notion that the rich are voting against their economic interests by voting liberal/Dem. - TWuG Nov 4, 06:09 3
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      - Good point. -- nm - Krusty Nov 4, 06:25
      - Your IM is well said. I agree. -- nm - volnelk Nov 4, 06:15
    - A good thing for Democrats if they want to start picking up votes is to stop calling everyone that doesn't vote for them stupid or evil. -- (edited) - spamlet Nov 4, 06:07 38
      - toughen up, nancy. - Mel Profit Nov 4, 06:23 13
        
        As I said above, I'm trying to help people here. Being angry about past slights isn't going to help Democrats win *now* - spamlet Nov 4, 06:34 12
        
        As I used to say to ML - take your party back. - Mel Profit Nov 4, 06:45 3
        
        I'm not a Republican and never have been. - spamlet Nov 4, 06:48 2
        
        you do a great impression then... -- nm - Mel Profit Nov 4, 06:52
        
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        And yet, the number of times that people who vote Republican are called such is astounding if you're trying to win them over. -- nm - spamlet Nov 4, 06:43 6
        
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        So is everyone on here that makes that argument part of the echo chamber (yourself included)? -- nm - spamlet Nov 4, 06:52 4
        
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        I'm not that concerned how you think of me either. The fact is is that I *am* able to see two sides of stories and have friends on both sides. - spamlet Nov 4, 07:09 2
        
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      - I think the problem with this argument on both sides is that people don't solely vote based on economic interest. -- nm - Dark Callisto vs. Evil Dead Nov 4, 06:18 6
        
        That's what I'm trying to point out. -- nm - spamlet Nov 4, 06:20 5
        
        This where I think modern media fails us. Instead of serving as a non-biased mediator, they have all become megaphones. - volnelk Nov 4, 06:25 4
        
        this -- nm - Pippy Nov 4, 06:53
        
        agreed. - Mel Profit Nov 4, 06:34
        
        People don't want to hear it. Media fragmented because people went to their respective sides. - spamlet Nov 4, 06:31 1
        
        yes, but... -- (edited) - znufrii Nov 4, 06:34
      - Uninformed doesn't mean stupid. I think the GOP has done a remarkable job in convincing people that they have their best interests in mind. - Krusty Nov 4, 06:17 3
        
        Uninformed *does* mean stupid. That's exactly what it means. -- nm - spamlet Nov 4, 06:19 2
        
        I disagree with that. People can be uneducated on issues, but that doesn't correlate to stupidity. -- nm - Dark Callisto vs. Evil Dead Nov 4, 06:20 1
        
        That's what I meant. I know I'm uneducated about things, many things, but I don't think I'm stupid. -- nm - Krusty Nov 4, 06:25
      - or racist, or homophobic -- nm - Strongbad Nov 4, 06:11 12
        
        The issue is that a very large number of *elected* GOP speak in terms of racism and homophobia and misogyny. - TWuG Nov 4, 06:20
        
        If the shoe fits. -- nm - Krusty Nov 4, 06:17
        
        stop ignoring it and we'll stop calling you on it. -- nm - Mel Profit Nov 4, 06:12 9
        
        As long as you realize you're taking the traits of a minority and applying it to "everyone" - Strongbad Nov 4, 06:19 8
        
        hogwash. - Mel Profit Nov 4, 06:31 7
        
        Just to clarify, - Strongbad Nov 4, 06:37 6
        
        That number would not surprise me, no. -- nm - Mel Profit Nov 4, 06:48 1
        
        I watch what they advocate. What they're officials propose as legislation... - Mel Profit Nov 4, 06:51
        
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        You and I both know that's not the same thing. -- nm - Strongbad Nov 4, 06:50 2
        
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        Correct. -- nm - Strongbad Nov 4, 07:51
- I completely agree. -- nm - Strongbad Nov 4, 05:52
- "The League of Uninformed Voters" is one of my favorite phrases from The Simpsons - prayformojo Nov 4, 05:43 1
  - Yup. I still get a good chuckle from that one. -- nm - Krusty Nov 4, 05:44

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