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In response to "that's completely the inference of the argument. because they "can't" do as well at schools like UT, they only deserve to go to the lesser schools -- nm" by jar jar trump

Except that they're specifically talking about affirmative action and those who only get into a school because of it.

Posted by Endor (aka Ender) Dec 10 '15, 14:54

There are plenty who are more than willing to lie about it though.

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That's really not how it works. It is a factor among many that is being considered. When you have a kid going through college admission you will - pmb Dec 10, 15:09 6
- Except that those being discussed wouldn't have gotten in with exactly the same qualifications if they were another race, right? -- nm - Ender Dec 10, 15:13 5
  - The point is that there are no 2 students with exactly the same qualifications when you get past the 10% rule. The minority has a "point on his - pmb Dec 10, 15:21 2
    - Do you believe "skin color" is a qualification for college? -- nm - Ender Dec 10, 15:23 1
      - That's an absurd statement. Is being good at sports a "qualification". This is not about qualifications. They meet the "qualifications" for getting - pmb Dec 10, 15:27
  - If "squishyness" were all it were then we could just drop the race question and go with everything else, right? -- nm - Ender Dec 10, 15:15 1
    - You're missing the point that diversity is good for the campus as a whole. Just as the kid who started his own business in high school (even though - pmb Dec 10, 15:25
Not "only". These are students that are qualified to be there, but the deciding factor to admit has a racial component. - TWuGbacca Dec 10, 15:06 4
- But less qualified than others, right? -- nm - Ender Dec 10, 15:08 3
  - Maybe. Maybe just differently qualified. - TWuGbacca Dec 10, 15:17 1
    - Are we seriously saying that the skin color your born with its a qualification for getting into college? -- nm - Ender Dec 10, 15:21
  - See my post above. It is way more "squishy" than that. The vast majority of college admissions is not just academic formulation. -- nm - pmb Dec 10, 15:10
that's not how the policy works -- nm - jar jar trump Dec 10, 14:58 5
- So there aren't people who get admitted over non-minority students with better scores? -- nm - Ender Dec 10, 15:06 4
  - There are non-minorities that get admitted over other non-minorities with better scores. Scores are not the only criteria. -- nm - pmb Dec 10, 15:12
  - With Texas' top 10% of each high school, yes. -- nm - toblr.2 Dec 10, 15:10 2
    - So the non-top-10-percent is strictly merit based? That's just not true. -- nm - Ender Dec 10, 15:16 1
      - didn't say anything on that, just answered the question. -- nm - toblr.2 Dec 10, 15:26

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Except that they're specifically talking about affirmative action and those who only get into a school because of it.

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