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In response to "that is a lot of coin for WAR. nm -- nm" by Groindo (Green lives matter)

Cubs Nation would sacrifice their firstborn to get a ring -- nm

Posted by jar jar trump (aka chris) Dec 11 '15, 12:10

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Cubs Nation? What's that? - toblr.2 Dec 11, 12:45
oh, he's a fine player, I just don't think he is a 23 mil a year player -- nm - Groindo (Green lives matter) Dec 11, 12:11 30
- What's that, about $1mil/year less than Trout? Glad the Cardinals lost this one. nm -- nm - Jim Dec 11, 12:23 10
  - Yeah, granted, Trout gave an all-time bargain discount...but still. - Will Hunting Dec 11, 12:27 9
    - Right. I have nothing bad to say about the guy as a player...just that $23mil/yr is way more than I wanted my team to spend. - Jim Dec 11, 12:29 1
      - I have had Heyward since he was a rookie on my strat keeper team. - Groindo (Green lives matter) Dec 11, 12:31
    - the only stat where Heyward is excellent in in WAR, and I am not sold on it validity. - Groindo (Green lives matter) Dec 11, 12:29 6
      - Runs saved is where he's the best player in the majors. - David Dec 11, 12:32 5
        
        Which is hard to quantify given he had less than 2 putouts a game. - Will Hunting Dec 11, 12:39 3
        
        It's easy to quantify through metrics and common sense. - Sith Lord Sexypants Dec 11, 12:53 2
        
        Well, the +4 is of the #'s in the Baseball-Reference guides so..... - Will Hunting Dec 11, 13:03 1
        
        The metrics that matter are the tangible ones - David Dec 11, 13:13
        
        right, that is where his WAR number is skewed to the extreme. nm -- nm - Groindo (Green lives matter) Dec 11, 12:33
- I'm not wild about that contract either. That's a lot for him. And what are they going to do with Baez? They have no place to play him now. - pmb Dec 11, 12:17 10
  - I don't think Baez is in their plans. - David Dec 11, 12:21 5
    - Maddon loves Baez. -- nm - Groindo (Green lives matter) Dec 11, 12:21 4
      - He'd be in n a Braves jersey right now if we wanted him. -- nm - David Dec 11, 12:23 3
        
        for what, Teheran? -- nm - Groindo (Green lives matter) Dec 11, 12:24 2
        
        Soler, Baez and more for Miller got shot down. -- nm - David Dec 11, 12:31 1
        
        sure, because you got the better deal for Miller. - Groindo (Green lives matter) Dec 11, 12:32
  - Maddon will be mixing and matching lineups, Montero is not gonna catch 5 days a week - Groindo (Green lives matter) Dec 11, 12:19 3
    - Ross is still there and catching Lester and maybe Lackey. Eventually they have to get comfortable with Schwarber catching or they'll eventually need - pmb Dec 11, 12:22 2
      - Schwarber just isn't a catcher. - David Dec 11, 12:34 1
        
        he really does need to go to the AL, and go when he has value. nm -- nm - Groindo (Green lives matter) Dec 11, 12:36
- but if he helps get them to the next level, that has a value beyond stats alone -- nm - jar jar trump Dec 11, 12:13 7
  - and if he doesn't, he just Soriano'd them all over again. nm -- nm - Groindo (Green lives matter) Dec 11, 12:15 6
    - That's my fear. Though he's younger than Soriano when he signed. Also, with the pace at which contracts are going up, maybe 5 years out that's not a - pmb Dec 11, 12:20 2
      - Tru dat. I know Maddon learned his lesson in Tampa Bay. - Buda Fett Dec 11, 12:25
      - You'll love him. -- nm - David Dec 11, 12:22
    - you can always unload him on the Yankees or Dodgers - jar jar trump Dec 11, 12:19 2
      - you are counting on only 2 teams to be able to move him, and you have to hope - Groindo (Green lives matter) Dec 11, 12:21
      - hats for bats -- nm - Buda Fett Dec 11, 12:20

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