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In response to "I'm addressing more of the box office aspect -- (edited)" by Reagen

I'm not sure what the argument is, then. That BO will suffer? That it'll be inflated? -- nm

Posted by TWuGbacca (aka TWuG) Dec 12 '15, 15:04

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that you can't get past 100 on the hype-meter. - Reagen Dec 12, 15:08 20
- "Quality is irrelevant" isn't in question. But I disagree that "hype" is what's important here. Enthusiasm is a slightly different beast and - TWuGbacca Dec 12, 15:13 19
  - you're speaking about it like those are two different concepts. - Reagen Dec 12, 15:19 18
    - Then we are using hype in different ways. Fandom is responsible for enthusiasm. The studio and all the tie-in advertising is what I think of as the - TWuGbacca Dec 12, 15:24 17
      - I mean it's 16 years later and a different box office environment, so yeah, of course - Reagen Dec 12, 15:27 16
        
        We'll see. I'm sure everyone will be able to point to some group's "expectations" and say "see? way over/under reality". - TWuGbacca Dec 12, 15:30 15
        
        A month ago, stories existed saying an opening of 300mil was on the table. Now, the guesses are 195 or so with a screen value record. - Will Hunting Dec 12, 15:41
        
        In the same way I expect to have whatever number it makes opening weekend thrown at me with a "See?!?!" while it completely misses the point of what - Reagen Dec 12, 15:40 13
        
        Usually I don't have too much trouble understanding your point, but I really am struggling to get what you mean - TWuGbacca Dec 12, 15:44 12
        
        also to note: - Reagen Dec 12, 15:59
        
        that the assumption that this film will walk to records is just as flawed as it was with TPM. -- (edited) - Reagen Dec 12, 15:49 10
        
        This has been said of just about every film that has taken a record or records. - TWuGbacca Dec 12, 16:01 8
        
        If I could sum this up into one thing, it's this: - Reagen Dec 12, 16:05 7
        
        Then we fundamentally disagree. I think this film shows that there is indeed "one louder". - TWuGbacca Dec 12, 16:13 6
        
        and I think Star Wars fans are making exactly the same mistake as they did last time - Reagen Dec 12, 16:16 5
        
        In looking at the types of films that have held the box office records of late: Avengers, Jurassic Park, etc, I think SW fans *are* kings of the hill. - TWuGbacca Dec 12, 16:25 4
        
        then why didn't TPM beat The Lost World? -- nm - Reagen Dec 12, 16:30 2
        
        Beats me. But that was a long while ago, culture-wise. Maybe dinosaur geeks and SW geeks had less overlap? - TWuGbacca Dec 12, 16:37 1
        
        Some people seem to think they're looking at this situation as the bottom case. It's not. The bottom case is Batman Begins. -- nm - Reagen Dec 12, 16:42
        
        And there are plenty of Star Wars geeks that aren't the usual SciFi geeks. It goes beyond the usual fangirls and boys. And not one age category. -- nm - toblr.2 Dec 12, 16:28
        
        It's already set records. And a time of year when families traditionally go to movies together doesn't seem like a huge penalty. -- nm - toblr.2 Dec 12, 15:58

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