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One more comment on the SW:TFA discussion from B2 (spoils)

Posted by Auld TWuG Syne (aka TWuG) Dec 28 '15, 17:54

You can't argue that Ren would know Rey was his sister because he was in her mind and use that as proof she's Luke's daughter, for several reasons.

1. All that would prove, if it proves anything, is that Rey isn't his sister. It wouldn't prove paternity.

2. Unless you argue that he would know they were related, in which case he'd know just as easily they were cousins. Which he also didn't "see" when in her mind.

IOW, if you argue the mind reading proves they aren't brother and sister, then it also proves they aren't cousins.

The better reading of the scene is that he isn't aware of any relationship between them regardless of what their real relationship might be.

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spoilers... - Mel Profit Dec 28, 19:11
No. spoils -- (edited) - Spawn Solo Dec 28, 17:57 2
- I'm saying that scene supports neither interpretation. -- nm* - Auld TWuG Syne Dec 28, 18:02
- spoil - Use the Force, loosi Dec 28, 18:00
spoil. - Use the Force, loosi Dec 28, 17:57 53
- Spoils - Auld TWuG Syne Dec 28, 18:01 52
  - Okay, here it is. Spoils. - Spawn Solo Dec 28, 18:04 50
    - Spoils - Auld TWuG Syne Dec 28, 18:14 14
      - You forgot the important bits. spoil - Spawn Solo Dec 28, 18:18 8
        
        Spoils - Auld TWuG Syne Dec 28, 18:25 7
        
        yeah except - Use the Force, loosi Dec 28, 18:27 6
        
        Spoils - Beryllium Dec 28, 18:36 2
        
        oh so it spoils - Use the Force, loosi Dec 28, 18:39 1
        
        Spoils - Auld TWuG Syne Dec 28, 18:41
        
        Spoils - Auld TWuG Syne Dec 28, 18:34 2
        
        spOIL - Use the Force, loosi Dec 28, 18:38 1
        
        spoils - Beryllium Dec 28, 18:45
      - ok - Use the Force, loosi Dec 28, 18:16 4
        
        I have explained that (spoils) - Auld TWuG Syne Dec 28, 18:22 3
        
        well - Use the Force, loosi Dec 28, 18:28 2
        
        Spoils - Auld TWuG Syne Dec 28, 18:37 1
        
        spoil - Use the Force, loosi Dec 28, 18:40
    - This is exactly why (spoil) - Dignan Dec 28, 18:06 17
      - So... what? spoils - Spawn Solo Dec 28, 18:10 10
        
        spoil - Dignan Dec 28, 18:20 7
        
        spoil - Use the Force, loosi Dec 28, 18:30
        
        Spoils - Auld TWuG Syne Dec 28, 18:26 4
        
        spoil - Use the Force, loosi Dec 28, 18:33
        
        Close. spoil - Spawn Solo Dec 28, 18:32 1
        
        thank oyu. spoil. - Use the Force, loosi Dec 28, 18:34
        
        comics spoil - Dignan Dec 28, 18:30
        
        followup spoils - Dignan Dec 28, 18:24
        
        not spoil -- (edited) - Use the Force, loosi Dec 28, 18:11 1
        
        "fun" heheh -- nm - Beryllium Dec 28, 18:28
      - my theory - mud Dec 28, 18:09 4
        
        They can go two ways with this (spoil) - Dignan Dec 28, 18:15 3
        
        Uh, yeah. spoil - Spawn Solo Dec 28, 18:25
        
        my theory (spoils) - CQ Dec 28, 18:23
        
        re: your last line ...oops -- nm - mud Dec 28, 18:19
      - spoil - Use the Force, loosi Dec 28, 18:07
    - Another thing (spoils) - Beryllium Dec 28, 18:06
    - I mean seriously - Use the Force, loosi Dec 28, 18:05 15
      - ^spoils above -- nm - CQ Dec 28, 18:12 11
        
        it's a spoils thread, come on. -- nm - Use the Force, loosi Dec 28, 18:12 10
        
        ST etiquette, right now, is to use spoils in the subject so Bery's spoiler thing will obscure it. Everyone is playing by that rule so as NOT - Auld TWuG Syne Dec 28, 18:17 9
        
        OK, I'll play - who exactly, is clicking on that, and only that post in that thread? - Reagen Dec 28, 18:20 8
        
        Wasn't meant to be a "jump down her neck" post. But Bery instituted it because what you describe is what happened to him. -- nm - Auld TWuG Syne Dec 28, 18:28 1
        
        To be clear: because I was dumb and half-conscious and dumb. -- nm - Beryllium Dec 28, 18:35
        
        Jesus. If the spoils thread is 6 replies down, and you click on my post and get offended, eff you. -- nm - Use the Force, loosi Dec 28, 18:25 2
        
        (that, maybe, too far) -- nm - Reagen Dec 28, 18:28 1
        
        honestly. it's out of respect. I respect people to not be so damn stupid. -- nm - Use the Force, loosi Dec 28, 18:34
        
        I was joking btw. -- nm - CQ Dec 28, 18:25
        
        I was going to agree, but I suppose someone might search for loosi posts and click on it that way. nm - Dignan Dec 28, 18:21 1
        
        then they deserve what they get. and also, thanks for searching me. -- nm - Use the Force, loosi Dec 28, 18:26
      - spoils - Peglegpete Dec 28, 18:09 2
        
        except - Use the Force, loosi Dec 28, 18:10 1
        
        oops. my post above was just for thinking about the future in the films, not the parentage discussion :) -- nm - Peglegpete Dec 28, 18:13
  - I think I saw the same. - Use the Force, loosi Dec 28, 18:02

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